The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast

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USFREEDOM911 said:
What's really messed up, with the accusations, is that we as adults want to believe that children are honest in what they say.
What's ruined it, is the times when parents or other adults teach and prompt the kid to lie.
It has created a air of cynicism and most adults don't want to be cynical, when it concerns kids.
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The alleged incident when he was supposed to have, and we don't even know what exactly, molested Dylan happened when they were at Mia Farrow's house in Connecticut and he was fighting for custody. It just beggars belief that he would be able to even get an opportunity to do what was alleged. As for her mother Maureen O'Hara it is well known that she liked "real men" such as John Wayne and didn't have a lot of time for weedy types like Woody Allan. So would she lie for her daughter in a custody dispute? Of course she bloody well would, as indeed would most mothers in that situation.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I don't agree, and even in America you are innocent until proved guilty. It was all investigated at the time and he was exonerated. It seems to me that what you are doing is exactly what you accuse others of with George Zimmerman. Maybe you have an ear witness that is willing to testify?
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Give me a break. Allen hired high priced attorneys to attack Mia and promote the line of thought that Mia had told her daughter to make it up. Mia, Mia's mom and now Dylan have all said the same thing. Allen's affair with Soon also shows he went after the younger women. Again, Allen got away with it because of who he was.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The alleged incident when he was supposed to have, and we don't even know what exactly, molested Dylan happened when they were at Mia Farrow's house in Connecticut and he was fighting for custody. It just beggars belief that he would be able to even get an opportunity to do what was alleged. As for her mother Maureen O'Hara it is well known that she liked "real men" such as John Wayne and didn't have a lot of time for weedy types like Woody Allan. So would she lie for her daughter in a custody dispute? Of course she bloody well would, as indeed would most mothers in that situation.
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What gets me, is there are any number of incidents where someone coached the child to lie and there was no molestation; just like there are any number of incidents where someone coached the child to lie and there was molestation.

What I find ironic, is that there a number of people who want to believe that any accusation of molestation or rape are factual; but are against the death penalty, because they don't believe that there's enough proof to put a murderer to death.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The alleged incident when he was supposed to have, and we don't even know what exactly, molested Dylan happened when they were at Mia Farrow's house in Connecticut and he was fighting for custody. It just beggars belief that he would be able to even get an opportunity to do what was alleged. As for her mother Maureen O'Hara it is well known that she liked "real men" such as John Wayne and didn't have a lot of time for weedy types like Woody Allan. So would she lie for her daughter in a custody dispute? Of course she bloody well would, as indeed would most mothers in that situation.
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You cannot even get the simple facts straight. Maureen O'Sullivan... not O'Hara you twit.

You have no problem calling Mia's mom a liar, yet believe Allen? You are demented.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The alleged incident when he was supposed to have, and we don't even know what exactly, molested Dylan happened when they were at Mia Farrow's house in Connecticut and he was fighting for custody. It just beggars belief that he would be able to even get an opportunity to do what was alleged. As for her mother Maureen O'Hara it is well known that she liked "real men" such as John Wayne and didn't have a lot of time for weedy types like Woody Allan. So would she lie for her daughter in a custody dispute? Of course she bloody well would, as indeed would most mothers in that situation.
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I really wonder what kind of monster raised you.

Most women would lie for their daughters in that situation? My mother would never in a million years claim that my bf stuck his finger between her grandaughter's buttocks in order to help me in a custody case.

I guess this explains a lot about you.
 
Darla said:
I really wonder what kind of monster raised you.

Most women would lie for their daughters in that situation? My mother would never in a million years claim that my bf stuck his finger between her grandaughter's buttocks in order to help me in a custody case.

I guess this explains a lot about you.
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I mean, seriously, I can just imagine my mother's face if i told her I wanted her to say she saw my bf stick his finger up her grandaughter's butt to help in a custody case. My mother would flip the fuck out and her first reaction would be; your fucking daughter will grow up to read that about her father. And then she would try everything to get ME to a fucking psychiatrist for even suggesting that. That is depraved indifference to your daughter and granddaughter. Yet you believe that "most women" would do this.
 
Superfreak said:
Give me a break. Allen hired high priced attorneys to attack Mia and promote the line of thought that Mia had told her daughter to make it up. Mia, Mia's mom and now Dylan have all said the same thing. Allen's affair with Soon also shows he went after the younger women. Again, Allen got away with it because of who he was.
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Yet his "son" Ronan begs to differ and has severed contact with his mother and renewed his relationship with his "father". I might also add that a panel of psychologists, appointed by US prosecutors and the police, concluded that Dylan had not been molested. Do you claim to know twenty years on more about what went on than they did at the time?
 
Superfreak said:
You cannot even get the simple facts straight. Maureen O'Sullivan... not O'Hara you twit.

You have no problem calling Mia's mom a liar, yet believe Allen? You are demented.
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Simple error, even you do that sometimes. People lie, especially in situations like that how surprising. I don't rule out that he may not be entirely innocent but I haven't seen any credible evidence to the contrary and again you are doing exactly what you accuse others of with Zimmerman.
 
Darla said:
Yes, but three women never known to have accused any other man of this their entire lives (and O'Sullivan is dead now so we can't say well maybe someday she will), against one man who has admitted to taking naked, and highly pornographic photos of one of his gf's teenaged daughters...well, boy you have to really stretch to say this is a he said she said. I think it goes far beyond that.
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I had forgotten about the pictures, thanks.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Yet his "son" Ronan begs to differ and has severed contact with his mother and renewed his relationship with his "father". I might also add that a panel of psychologists, appointed by US prosecutors and the police, concluded that Dylan had not been molested. Do you claim to know twenty years on more about what went on than they did at the time?
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Except that Ronan DOESN'T beg to differ you moron. It was RONAN that reopened this whole issue. It was RONAN's actions (via twitter) in SUPPORT of his sister that prompted Dylan to write the letter. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
By the way, I have haven't been uncivil to you and I really resent your nasty tone.
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Well, I am a yank... and we are arrogant assholes... and you are not very well informed on this issue... and I hate men who abuse women and kids... you are supporting one that did.
 
Superfreak said:
Except that Ronan DOESN'T beg to differ you moron. It was RONAN that reopened this whole issue. It was RONAN's actions (via twitter) in SUPPORT of his sister that prompted Dylan to write the letter. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
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Yeh I got that wrong I meant Moses not Dylan. I refer you to post 25

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...Allegations-Not-So-Fast&p=1432554#post1432554

Moses Farrow, now 36, and an accomplished photographer, has been estranged from Mia for several years. During a recent conversation, he spoke of “finally seeing the reality” of Frog Hollow and used the term “brainwashing” without hesitation. He recently reestablished contact with Allen and is currently enjoying a renewed relationship with him and Soon-Yi.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html
 
Superfreak said:
Well, I am a yank... and we are arrogant assholes... and you are not very well informed on this issue... and I hate men who abuse women and kids... you are supporting one that did.
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I am not supporting him I am supporting the rule of law and against the lynch mob mentality that is so prevalent nowadays. You actually surprise me as I wouldn't have thought you to be so quick to judge.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Simple error, even you do that sometimes. People lie, especially in situations like that how surprising. I don't rule out that he may not be entirely innocent but I haven't seen any credible evidence to the contrary and again you are doing exactly what you accuse others of with Zimmerman.
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1) It is his word vs. the word of Mia, Mia's mom and most importantly... Dylan

2) Ronan does not support him as you suggested. He is the one that started this up again by supporting his SISTER DYLAN.

3) You are crazy to think that someone would coach a 7 year old or make up something like this just to win a custody battle.
 
Superfreak said:
1) It is his word vs. the word of Mia, Mia's mom and most importantly... Dylan

2) Ronan does not support him as you suggested. He is the one that started this up again by supporting his SISTER DYLAN.

3) You are crazy to think that someone would coach a 7 year old or make up something like this just to win a custody battle.
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I have already corrected that and said it was Moses not Ronan!

If you think that has never happened then it is you are that are crazy but then you've never had children and never experienced the strong primal forces at play.

Anyway signing off now, taking the missus out to a new Thai restaurant nearby.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I am not supporting him I am supporting the rule of law and against the lynch mob mentality that is so prevalent nowadays. You actually surprise me as I wouldn't have thought you to be so quick to judge.
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So quick to judge? It has been over 20 years. The fact that Dylan is now discussing it just solidifies my opinion on the matter.
 
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