Dead kids and our 1st and 2nd amendment rights...

[SmarterthanYou]

When do you plan to launch this assault? You apparently think it will happen in my lifetime! Lol

if the establishment democrats and republicans (along with all of you statists) continues, it very well could. I don't understand how you can't see that.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It's only pointless because you haven't been able to persuade us and vice versa.

I'd be very happy to give you just one scenario, if you'd like.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It's pointless because you feel that every example in history cannot apply here, based on nothing.

it's pointless because they feel that everybody in the country is as happy as they are and are too passive and cowardly to be anything else.

 

[Phantasmal]

all? of course not. but you're deliberately avoiding the argument. do you really think those of us who are former military have forgotten all about the training we received in the military?

Did I say that, I just don't think there are enough of you at this time to be effective and I know at this time my family members, bothh current and former, who also haven't forgotten their training, would fight against any uprising against the government.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I asked this in another thread, what's the rallying point that will persuade me?

I can't speak for you. I can only speak for myself and those who have relayed their lines to me. so tell us what would be yours?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Civil wars are as ugly as it gets as proven in our history. We killed each other more than we killed people in any single foreign war.

You romantacize about overthrowing the government but don't think about what it truly means.

I don't think Obama is going to incarerate my grandchildren, you are trying to play to my emotions, I didn't think homey played that way! Lol

i'm sure that the japanese americans thought the same, as well as the native americans. maybe even the arab americans.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

So far, you have Philly and STY ready to go! Kind of a rag tag force, but who knows where this could go!

maybe you should refamiliarize yourself with the 3% movement and oathkeepers.

 

[Phantasmal]

it's pointless because they feel that everybody in the country is as happy as they are and are too passive and cowardly to be anything else.

I think the faction that would take up arms against their government at this point in time is indeed very small. I do not think most people are that unhappy nd our government that bad.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Some of us (not me, not me at all, never) have even improved and expanded upon it.

yes, we have.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Did I say that, I just don't think there are enough of you at this time to be effective and I know at this time my family members, bothh current and former, who also haven't forgotten their training, would fight against any uprising against the government.

and you think that they would be more effective than us? or that the US Government would issue you a machine gun, rocket launcher, and jet fighter to join them?

 

[Phantasmal]

maybe you should refamiliarize yourself with the 3% movement and oathkeepers.

Oh, I am familiar and I think the government is too, so when is the rebellion happening STY? Next year? Next month?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Oh, I am familiar and I think the government is too, so when is the rebellion happening STY? Next year? Next month?

have you seen any major attacks on american citizens or any major acts of oppression at this point?

 

[christiefan915]

Is it ludicrous that we can't defeat the terrorists in Afghanistan after 10+ years ?

Was it ludicrous that we suffered 10,000 causalities in Iraq from lone terrorists or bands of 2 an 3 terrorists, most with
no small arms or weapons at all ?...

I imagine the British thought rebellion was ludicrous 230 some years ago in the colonies....

and Lincoln thought rebellion ludicrous in 1885.......

and Batista thought it ludicrous in Cuba, etc.....

I think the notion foolish at this time in our history

Bravs, we're talking about Americans rising up against the American government.

 

[christiefan915]

amusing how you compartmentalize and generalize based on the subject so as to avoid painting yourself in to the proverbial corner. if you actually need an example, look at what the media reported on randy weaver and what he actually turned out to be.

are you really that closed minded? or is restoration really that difficult of a concept for you to envision?

Restoration of what, are you comparing Obama to Oliver Cromwell?

We live in a republic and have the right to vote. If a small band of malcontents decided to try and take over under the pretense of "restoration" I would resist that with everything in me. I despised reagan and bush but never for one instance thought they should be deposed via rebellion.

 

[christiefan915]

all? of course not. but you're deliberately avoiding the argument. do you really think those of us who are former military have forgotten all about the training we received in the military?

What gives you and your merry men the right to overthrow a duly-elected government?

 

[christiefan915]

I'd be very happy to give you just one scenario, if you'd like.

Yes, please.

 

[zappasguitar]

all? of course not. but you're deliberately avoiding the argument. do you really think those of us who are former military have forgotten all about the training we received in the military?

Do you really think that every one of us who rails against war wouldn't, if the situation demanded it, be ready to kill each and every one of you insurrectionist bastards?

Because I gotta tell you, I have no problem picking up a gun and taking out each and every one of you "revolution is coming" nutbars and there's MILLIONS more just like me.

 

[zappasguitar]

What gives you and your merry men the right to overthrow a duly-elected government?

You mean besides their incredible self righteousness?

 

[zappasguitar]

Restoration of what, are you comparing Obama to Oliver Cromwell?

We live in a republic and have the right to vote. If a small band of malcontents decided to try and take over under the pretense of "restoration" I would resist that with everything in me. I despised reagan and bush but never for one instance thought they should be deposed via rebellion.

They seem to think that since we decry war that if rebellion ever occurred we'd go meekly into their little pens and that just isn't the case.

I think those in for the biggest surprise would be the gun nut insurrectionists who imagine how easy their overthrow of those they consider soft will be.

They might also be in for a BIG surprise.

 

[NOVA]

Do you really think that every one of us who rails against war wouldn't, if the situation demanded it, be ready to kill each and every one of you insurrectionist bastards?

Because I gotta tell you, I have no problem picking up a gun and taking out each and every one of you "revolution is coming" nutbars and there's MILLIONS more just like me.

Careful you don't shoot your eye out.....