The Christ Haters Are At It Again Folks.

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
First, learn how to string together a coherent sentence.

Secondly, these local debates that get national attention primarily are about majority vs. minority usage of community property. These debates are usually couched in local ordinances and/or state/federal law. The final outcome depends upon if particular religious displays violate those laws.

Nothing in your rant changes or disproves one iota of what I previously stated.

So Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Holidays, etc., etc.



Learn the difference between what the people want and what the government demands.

I pointed out that it was a harmless cross probably made of plastic atop a Christmas tree who's entire display life wont last more than a month. It is you and your allies who cannot tolerate the Christian religious aspect of the holiday and the cross atop the tree is a perfect example of such. No one would be offended at it's sight except all those who have an agenda. The type of people who sue other people because they are offended.

Learn the difference between county, city, state and federal law. What happens in one or two towns or in one department store chain for one month is NOT the law of the land. Capice"?

What happens in one town is not the end of the world for folk like you, because all this month I watched or witnessed nothing but "christmas" commercials, movies, etc. Christmas music blared from various department stores along with displays, on Lord knows how many radio stations, etc., in my town...."Merry Christmas" was the greeting by various employees, folk just walking down the street, etc. Every Sunday morning I see all several evangelical preachers do their thing.

So all this decades long hysteria by the likes of right wing hustlers like O'Reilly and Hannity or by Murdoch publications and their sycophants (i.e., YOU) is just that....hysteria. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

But facts and logic were never your strong point. Parrot on.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
So a serial cheater and documented misogynist that's 3 times married is going to champion the religious right wing nut's paranoid quest to have national symbolist dominance every December? Classic!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to watch "It's a Wonderful Life" on my local commercial television station.

You're a hateful, evil secularist with your hateful holiday message and your mockery over the Christmas greeting that you spouted at me.
Taichiliberal responds: All I did was deconstruct your babble with FACTS and the logic that is derived from such. Since I have stated NO "hatred" for Christmas in no uncertain terms, your accusation is just a plain old lie. TFB for you if reality trumps (pun intended) your silly theocratic leaning screeds.

Your people will tell all Americans what offends them at what time and where and everyone else must adjust accordingly legislating laws in the halls of congress punishing anyone who offends you. You're the definition of totalitarian statism.

Taichiliberal responds: Again, you seem to want to disregard the Constitution and the federal law(s) that is derived from it. It's a dispute by locals regarding use of PUBLIC PROPERTY to display religious symbols. If the majority rules and those wishes comply with the law, one side is going to lose out. AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT BAN YOU FROM ATTENDING THE CHURCH OF YOUR CHOICE, GREETING PEOPLE HOWEVER YOU WANT, SETTING UP CROSSES, MANGER SCENES AND SUCH ON YOUR HOME PROPERTY. IF THE MANAGERS OF A DEPARTMENT STORE CONCEDE TO CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS AND INSTRUCT THEIR STAFF TO ACT ACCORDINGLY AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR BUSINESS ELSEWHERE (something you right wing "free market" types are always babbling about).

Drop the poo pooing and the no big deal mask. You already exposed yourself above.

Only in your fevered little mind, you silly rabbit. I pointed out the FACT about your little tin god Trump with regards to your hysteria about Christmas and you don't like it....but you can't logically or factually disprove what I say. Typical.
 
Learn the difference between county, city, state and federal law. What happens in one or two towns or in one department store chain for one month is NOT the law of the land. Capice"?

What happens in one town is not the end of the world for folk like you, because all this month I watched or witnessed nothing but "christmas" commercials, movies, etc. Christmas music blared from various department stores along with displays, on Lord knows how many radio stations, etc., in my town...."Merry Christmas" was the greeting by various employees, folk just walking down the street, etc. Every Sunday morning I see all several evangelical preachers do their thing.

So all this decades long hysteria by the likes of right wing hustlers like O'Reilly and Hannity or by Murdoch publications and their sycophants (i.e., YOU) is just that....hysteria. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

But facts and logic were never your strong point. Parrot on.

So there is no difference between county, state,federal, community, it's all under the same blanket bureaucratic law. This is the essence of you, the leftist. You tell me to learn the difference? What difference?

None of your lot want states, you want provinces of the federal authority. And we the people is actually we the government. You want uniformed laws across the country all coming down from the federal authority.

This is blatant authoritarianism. Denying we the people religious celebrations protected by the constitution's first amendment is tyranny. And no more of your lies. Religious symbolism is part of religious celebration and part of historical recognition.

Fascist! Authoritarian! Secular, intolerant social engineering!
 
Only in your fevered little mind, you silly rabbit. I pointed out the FACT about your little tin god Trump with regards to your hysteria about Christmas and you don't like it....but you can't logically or factually disprove what I say. Typical.

My fevered little mind knows that you're a social planning, fascist,authoritarian playing a false horn of innocence without concealing your intolerant hatred of historical religious symbols of a people who are disgusted with your low moral totalitarian relativism.

And they just did something about it, you hateful fraud and societal misfit .. at the polls and right in your perverted face.
 
your religion/holy book/laws not mine. please do not impose your religion on me. i follow the laws imposed on me by the constitution and subsequent legislative acts that have been found constitutional.

sin is a creation of religious hacks to control 'worshipers'. some i may agree with some i may not. MY CHOICE. not yours or some religious hacks.

How are they being "imposed" on you.
<make sure you think twice, before sending your reply; because you're standing on a slippery slope>

You failed to answer this Don.
Why is that??
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Learn the difference between county, city, state and federal law. What happens in one or two towns or in one department store chain for one month is NOT the law of the land. Capice"?

What happens in one town is not the end of the world for folk like you, because all this month I watched or witnessed nothing but "christmas" commercials, movies, etc. Christmas music blared from various department stores along with displays, on Lord knows how many radio stations, etc., in my town...."Merry Christmas" was the greeting by various employees, folk just walking down the street, etc. Every Sunday morning I see all several evangelical preachers do their thing.

So all this decades long hysteria by the likes of right wing hustlers like O'Reilly and Hannity or by Murdoch publications and their sycophants (i.e., YOU) is just that....hysteria. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

But facts and logic were never your strong point. Parrot on.




So there is no difference between county, state,federal, community, it's all under the same blanket bureaucratic law. This is the essence of you, the leftist. You tell me to learn the difference? What difference?


taichiliberal responds: Only a completely insipidly stubborn fool would say there is no difference between state and federal law, much less counties and cities. A little matter of oh, THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY would beg to differ with you. But like the proverbial monkey, you have your ears and eyes covered. Pity you don't include your mouth.

None of your lot want states, you want provinces of the federal authority. And we the people is actually we the government. You want uniformed laws across the country all coming down from the federal authority.

taichiliberal responds: you're babbling, bunky. YOU stated there is no differences regarding state and federal law. The Constitution would disagree with you. I suggest you READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY the entire document, and spare us all this revisionist bullshit. I mean, you want government, but you don't want federal gov't. I assume you are referring to individual state autonomy. If that is the case then there is no USA...lord knows what fools like you actually want, but I dare say democracy would have a hard time existing in your world.

This is blatant authoritarianism. Denying we the people religious celebrations protected by the constitution's first amendment is tyranny. And no more of your lies. Religious symbolism is part of religious celebration and part of historical recognition.

taichiliberal responds: Put your dress down and wipe the spittle from your mouth! Until you can copy and paste the federal law that denies your right to religious celebration or practice, you're just ranting like an ignorant fool. See bunky, in a democratic society tax paying residents decide through voting how PUBLIC property is utilized. And since in America there is no official religion, symbolism can be regulated. You don't like it because you lost the vote about a manger scene in the town square or because a department store has instructed its employees to say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.....well then go to your church and pray about it....no one will stop you.

Fascist! Authoritarian! Secular, intolerant social engineering!

Oh stfu...you sound like a Taliban or Isis or Al Qaeda nut!
 
You'll obey the same laws I have to obey or your ass will go to jail. Regardless if you agree with them or not.

That includes the constitution's first amendment which gives him the freedom to point out your deficiencies. You're being annoyed by him? Good!

You're not special because you're an atheist. You'll be annoyed and offended like the rest of us have to be in a religious free society.

tell it to the supreme court, they are the ones that ruled that religious displays on public property are forbidden

it is not just atheists, but also all non-christian religions
 
Did SCOTUS bother to check if any of these displays were established by Congress?

neither congress nor the president has the power to override scotus except by amending the constitution

if they do and someone sues, that someone will win...i would lie to get rid of the annual christmas tree, but unfortunately i neither have the money to file such a suit nor to go to dc to appear for said suit

oh well
 
neither congress nor the president has the power to override scotus except by amending the constitution

if they do and someone sues, that someone will win...i would lie to get rid of the annual christmas tree, but unfortunately i neither have the money to file such a suit nor to go to dc to appear for said suit

oh well

The Constitution doesn't need amending. SCOTUS needs to learn how to read the Constitution correctly, and the 1st Amendment says "Congress."
 
The Constitution doesn't need amending. SCOTUS needs to learn how to read the Constitution correctly, and the 1st Amendment says "Congress."

"congress shall make no law regarding the ESTABLISHMENT of any religion" displaying a religious symbol of one religion on public property is considered establishing a religion or putting one religion over all others...deal with it...if you do not like it seek an amendment to the constitution (however, i hope that you do not succeed, i do not want a state religion)
 
neither congress nor the president has the power to override scotus except by amending the constitution

if they do and someone sues, that someone will win...i would lie to get rid of the annual christmas tree, but unfortunately i neither have the money to file such a suit nor to go to dc to appear for said suit

oh well

i resolve to not visit this site until trump is out of office

Liar
 
"congress shall make no law regarding the ESTABLISHMENT of any religion" displaying a religious symbol of one religion on public property is considered establishing a religion or putting one religion over all others...deal with it...if you do not like it seek an amendment to the constitution (however, i hope that you do not succeed, i do not want a state religion)

"... displaying a religious symbol of one religion on public property is considered establishing a religion..."

Considered so, by whom??


i resolve to not visit this site until trump is out of office
 
"congress shall make no law regarding the ESTABLISHMENT of any religion" displaying a religious symbol of one religion on public property is considered establishing a religion or putting one religion over all others...deal with it...if you do not like it seek an amendment to the constitution (however, i hope that you do not succeed, i do not want a state religion)

A municipal council is not Congress. Congress is the legislative body that inhabits the Capitol Building in DC, and makes federal, not municipal, laws.
 
A municipal council is not Congress. Congress is the legislative body that inhabits the Capitol Building in DC, and makes federal, not municipal, laws.

And if your revisionist view were absolute, then federal law would mean NOTHING in these United States, as the individual state would declare/obtain complete autonomy...thereby eliminating the UNITED States of America.

Got that, bunky? All this exaggerated hysteria about a mythical "war on Christmas" leads to a mindset that contradicts its own ideology consistently.
 
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