Time To Recognize Who We Are; Reunite America

[evince]

What was done with the German people after the war?



They were forced to view piles of human remains and publicly shamed by the world for theirs choices

 

[Into the Night]

Hello NiftyNiblick,



We on the left are not the only America. We have to get that. Failure to recognize that has hurt us.

McConnell knows he has to approve a reasonable cabinet if he expects to have a working relationship with Biden. Sure, Bernie is not going to be on the cabinet, but there are more moderate choices that will pass muster. McConnell no longer has to listen to Trump or do his bidding. Trump's power-hold just vanished. He is now lame duck.

Democrats deny the Constitution of the United States, want to destroy it, and replace it with fascism by oligarchy. THERE IS NO COMPROMISE.

 

[evince]

Trump hasn't lost.

Sure

He WON his freedom huh

 

[votebiden]

Sure

He WON his freedom huh

Amazing they're still playing this "fake news" game.

 

[Into the Night]

The existing Republican Party is Russian dirty

Nope. That would be the Democrats. They keep bringing up this debunked nonsense.

Biden is about to get the intel trump and the right have been sitting on to protect themselves

The R leadership is in big trouble

Empty threat. The 'Russians did it' is debunked. Russians aren't conservative, like Trump. They are socialists, like the Democrats.

 

[evince]

If we act immaturely and rub it in their face it gets us nothing but they will remember it. It's bad karma. It will only come back to haunt us.

What goes around comes around.

You put bad energy out there and bad energy comes back to you.

It is time to celebrate a bright new day for America.

They need to be retrained to think


ITS A CULT

 

[Into the Night]

Sure

He WON his freedom huh

Trump hasn't lost.

 

[Into the Night]

Amazing they're still playing this "fake news" game.

That would be YOU. Inversion fallacy.

 

[evince]

Biden will now receive the intel trump and the republicans have been to protect their crimes

 

[votebiden]

That would be YOU. Inversion fallacy.

you're nuts. not interested in your stupid fallacy game either. stop being a troll

 

[Into the Night]

They need to be retrained to think


ITS A CULT

You don't get to 'retrain'. You are not the king. The Constitution of the United States is not a cult. You want to destroy it.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello evince,



The Republicans have their faults but they are our fellow Americans and we have to learn how to live with them.

This is a very good time for all Democrats to be very considerate.

Republicans are going to be in various states of denial and depression.

Let us try our best to be good winners.

No compromise.

 

[Into the Night]

The traitors will get what they deserve

The ones who are just cult members will need to be reprogrammed

Just being nice won’t reprogram them



THEY NEED DEPROGRAMMING.

GO READ UP ON HOW YOU DEPROGRAM HUMANS

Go ahead. Start the civil war you've been craving about. You will lose.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump supporters wanted fascism. We cannot ignore this.

Inversion fallacy. You are talking about Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

I am not proposing that we ignore hatred nor troubling moves toward fascism.

Trump just lost power, so that is going to move us away from fascism. Good thing.

As for the hatred we must lead by example.

Be the good winners we wished they were when they elected Trump.

One thing is for sure, and MLK knew this. We cannot hope to fight hatred with more hatred.

Trump has not lost. There is no compromise.

 

[Into the Night]

To Night, only Neo-Nazi blogs are real news.

The NAZI party is a socialist party, like the Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

If we act immaturely and rub it in their face it gets us nothing but they will remember it. It's bad karma. It will only come back to haunt us.

What goes around comes around.

You put bad energy out there and bad energy comes back to you.

It is time to celebrate a bright new day for America.

Destroying the Constitution is not a bright new day in America.

 

[Into the Night]

Should Germany allow nazis to have public demonstrations and wave nazi flags?

We have a dangerous right wing militia movement which needs to be dealt with. Playing nice got Trump elected in the first place.

The NAZI party is a socialist party, like the Democrats. Hillary didn't play nice and neither do the Democrats.

 

[Saudade]

This election has been a vivid demonstration of American democracy in action, Earl. The long, patient lines of voting during the pandemic and the days of the mailed vote tabulation have been impressive and reassuring. The Supreme Court is not going to reverse the inevitable outcome. Not a chance. Be a man and shake on it.

It's been a vivid demonstration of how mail-in votes can be fabricated and how the lack of vote security in our system makes it impossible to know how legitimate or illegitimate this election was.

Having an honor system for votes is a stupid idea, but it's what we've got. Until this changes, voting is a farce.

Granted, voting is kind of a farce anyway, given how "popular will" is somewhat artificial.

 

[Saudade]

The election is over.

Our nation has been torn apart by very different ideas. Not only do Americans disagree on what our government should do, we don't even agree on basic facts. That is because we now get our information from two entirely different streams of non-overlapping sources.

We are really two nations sharing one government and one land.

If that is not difficult enough, we have a lot of forces seeking to keep this division as polarized as possible, making great profits from whipping up hatred, and dehumanizing 'the other side.'

There is no pretending that we only disagree during election season and then go back to 'normal life' afterwards any more. It's like we are in constant election season and it never ends.

The best thing we can do is recognize that our fellow Americans do not share our beliefs but they do share our country.

We know that we have to live together.

The best thing we can do is to remember that we must share this country, and resign ourselves to accepting that it takes all of us to make America what it is.

Bitter hatred and disrespect is not helpful at all, accomplishes nothing, makes us dysfunctional.

We have big enough differences without adding hatred on top of everything else. We have to try to rise above that.

Our challenge is rediscover respect for one another.

If America is really great then part of that has to mean we respect all Americans. A hateful and bitterly divided nation cannot be great.

David Brooks:

"Well, if ever there was a campaign that was going to be a blowout, I thought this was it. I thought we had an unpopular president that people were ready to get rid of. I expected a large margin. And I was wrong. It's a 2.8 percentage margin nationally.

And so I think what we have learned is that we a very evenly divided nation, two groups of people in non-overlapping universes. For a time, it seemed — and I think people in both camps thought, well, the people on my team could eventually crush the people on the other team, and my team will get to rule.

I think we now have to face reality. That's just never going to happen. The other side is never going to go away. And we have got to find a way to live with each other.

And so, to me, that's the biggest takeaway of where we are right now."

That's the tone of this excellent discussion of where we stand as a nation:

Shields and Brooks on PBS Newshour

Hating on each other is definitely counterproductive. It's also kind of morbidly humorous, since the elites run the system, and none of us on this site have any real power to change that.

The best thing we can do is just focus on our personal lives. We can discuss politics here as a matter of recreation and academic interest, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking anything we believe at this point makes any difference in a broken system.