45% now trust the GOP more

[Cancel 2018. 3]

for one who was just arguing for longer views of trends you are (imo) taking a very short sighted view claiming conservatism is dead. As history has shown many times voters aren't afraid to switch between parties and there's no reason to believe any different today. The Republicans enjoyed the 'we will be in power forever' mindset. Worked out real well for them.

exactly...as i keep reminding dems they did not believe themselves dead after losing so many elections and after bush's party actually gained seats during his first term, something not done in decades...

it is naive to think the party is dead, parties have continually redefined themselves over the past century, so it is the height of ignorance to run around like a child and cry "dead, dead, dead"...

 

[Minister of Truth]

I tend not to put much stalk in Rasmussen, as his polls tend to suck, but it sounds nice, at any rate.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Not so ridiculous.....Rasmussen will concede to some extent partial leads against conservatives, but when you put them on comparison with other pollsters, they mostly the other way.

www.pollingreport.com

And the reason Rasmussen always gets it right is because they sample likely voters.

Sorry, but the historical facts tell a different tale....as the site I sourced clearly demonstrates when compared to Rasmussen. This was painfully evident in 2008, let alone the Shrub's 8 years. Rasmussen makes sense if you ignore everyone/everything else. I can do a documented fact based comparison to prove what I say is right, if you like. Can you?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Absolutely, it cracks me up. We ran this topic into the ground on the WOT. Also, I remember how the righties abandoned Rasmussen for Gallup, when Gallup started to show lower levels of support for Obama. I think their allegiance goes to whichever pollster shows the worst numbers for Obama.

Bingo! And they'll throw anyone/anthing under the bus that diverts from the neocon mantras.

One has to do comparisons to other pollsters before coming to a conclusion as to their accuracy or objectivity. Rasmussen, like Fox News, has it's audience.

 

[maineman]

for one who was just arguing for longer views of trends you are (imo) taking a very short sighted view claiming conservatism is dead. As history has shown many times voters aren't afraid to switch between parties and there's no reason to believe any different today. The Republicans enjoyed the 'we will be in power forever' mindset. Worked out real well for them.

I honestly think that as long as conservatism aligns itself with the religious right, it will doom itself to regional irrelevance...

which, quite frankly, I wouldn't mind one little bit.

 

[Topspin]

I honestly think that as long as conservatism aligns itself with the religious right, it will doom itself to regional irrelevance...

which, quite frankly, I wouldn't mind one little bit.

I agree with that, but If Obama doens't fix the economy him and his buddies are done. There's prob more socially liberal people in general, there are far more people needing jobs and retirment accounts that aren't political junkies like us. If he gets less than trend growth the cons will amaze you at how much they turn him into a Black Jimmy Carter.

 

[red states rule]

the poll numbers for how the people feel about the direction of the country have been trending upward since the election. Looking at the last ten days and saying that THOSE results show a meaningful trend, while ignoring the previous eight months and the trend that is obvious there is disingenuous. It took a long time for people to lose confidence in their government and the direction that the country was headed. It is impossible to turn that around overnight. Obama IS turning it around, however, and the polling which you chose to ignore demonstrates that quite clearly.

Oh really??

Care to check out the CURRENT NUMBERS?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html

 

[Onceler]

It's good to see righties putting stock in the polls again after years of trying to discredit them as media-manipulated tools for the Democrats...

 

[red states rule]

It's good to see righties putting stock in the polls again after years of trying to discredit them as media-manipulated tools for the Democrats...

I am only pointing out (maineman)'s favorite poll is now going in the opposite direction he claimed

There is no doubt the voters are seeing how Obama and the Dems are causing severe harm to the economy - and all the Dems can do is keep screaming "It's Bush's fault"

 

[maineman]

I am only pointing out
maineman's favorite poll is now going in the opposite direction he claimed

There is no doubt the voters are seeing how Obama and the Dems are causing severe harm to the economy - and all the Dems can do is keep screaming "It's Bush's fault"

it is vacillating a little over the past ten days... I really don't think that a ten day movement of an average of polls negates the eight month trend that preceded it.... you want to ignore eight months and claim that that trend means nothing, and hang you hat on ten days and claim that it, all of a sudden, means everything.

Oh...and on this board, we stick with people's screen names. If you can't live by the rules here... gtfo

 

[Damocles]

I am only pointing out maineman's favorite poll is now going in the opposite direction he claimed

There is no doubt the voters are seeing how Obama and the Dems are causing severe harm to the economy - and all the Dems can do is keep screaming "It's Bush's fault"

No real names here without their expressed permission.

 

[Jarod]

I am only pointing out (maineman)'s favorite poll is now going in the opposite direction he claimed

There is no doubt the voters are seeing how Obama and the Dems are causing severe harm to the economy - and all the Dems can do is keep screaming "It's Bush's fault"

That may ultimatly be a trend, but for now its not any more signifigant than statistical noise... The trend if that Americans are increasingly becoming more and more optomistic than they were prior to January of 09'.

 

[Damocles]

That may ultimatly be a trend, but for now its not any more signifigant than statistical noise... The trend if that Americans are increasingly becoming more and more optomistic than they were prior to January of 09'.

Consumer Index dropped recently showing that trend seems to have had a hiccup.