1 Out Of Every 509 Americans Has Died Of COVID

PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch,



Well, of course, socialism alone is no good. ....
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Agreed. A little socialism to help the needy is good. Too much to support the lazy and stupid is not good.

Also, power corrupts. Never trust a government which can give you everything you want because it would have the power to take everything you have.

Aesop's Fable about the Grasshopper and the Ants is an example: http://read.gov/aesop/052.html
The Ants & the Grasshopper

One bright day in late autumn a family of Ants were bustling about in the warm sunshine, drying out the grain they had stored up during the summer, when a starving Grasshopper, his fiddle under his arm, came up and humbly begged for a bite to eat.

"What!" cried the Ants in surprise, "haven't you stored anything away for the winter? What in the world were you doing all last summer?"

"I didn't have time to store up any food," whined the Grasshopper; "I was so busy making music that before I knew it the summer was gone."

The Ants shrugged their shoulders in disgust.

"Making music, were you?" they cried. "Very well; now dance!" And they turned their backs on the Grasshopper and went on with their work.

There's a time for work and a time for play.
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It's like the right hears you talking and pretends to listen, but really, they are not listening. They are translating what you say into their own propaganda. They create a straw man out of what you say, and then they proceed to rip apart the thing they created. It's pretty hard to get a straight talk honest answer out of them.

The right would have very little argument at all without personal abuse, straw man, red herring, whataboutism, ad hominem, personal anecdotes, subject-changing, claiming to take offense, redefining words, claiming a postulation is 'evident without proof,' or claiming that solid evidence is 'just your opinion.'

In short, it is pretty rare to get an honest argument out of the right. Just the very first one, personal abuse, eliminates the entire extreme right wing completely. There is nobody in this forum who holds extreme right wing views who can advocate for their views without expressing hatred for the those who do not share their views. They are completely anger-motivated.

The moderate right uses all the other above techniques.

What's left after that is very little.

It only seems logical to me to be left of center. That is where I find logical arguments backed up by solid evidence.
 
Hello Dutch,

Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed the larger points. However, Freedom is an unalienable right. There's no "possible" to it. The only rule is don't hurt anyone.

The Big Picture goes back to education and Critical Thinking....and the lack thereof in American schools and the public.
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Agreed.

It is what I meant when I said 'freedom where possible.' I meant exactly what you say. The freedom to do what you please as long as it does not affect others. Naturally that is a VERY gray area. It is not possible to make laws which cover every instance.

Take boom cars for instance. When somebody has their car music so loud that others can't even hear their own car music, that should be against the law. It is absurd for one individual to be allowed to control what everyone hears because everyone can't do that. If everyone did the same thing, every stop signal would simply be a loud cacophony of an unpleasant mixture of unrelated music selections. Music is only appreciated when listening to one selection at a time. Nobody wants to hear two bands playing two different songs at the same time. And multiple ones is only worse.

But there is no way to write a law which rules out having your music so loud that others can't hear their own music in their own car. If you measure decibel levels then lots of things can sound that loud. Trucks, tools, airplanes, etc.

It's funny. It seems like boom car jerks take turns. I don't recall ever being at a stoplight where everyone is cranking up boom car stereos. It would be absurd.

I always feel sorry for whomever is in the boom car. It's so sad that they have to resort to being so annoying. It is an obvious plea for attention. That should be evident by the way they always have to have their windows open. How pathetic to feel so inappropriate in the world that the only way one can get attention is by being an A-hole.

Whatever. Boom car? I just turn off my own music and wait for the light to change. Soon enough there will be the savored distance between whatever jerk is doing that and peaceful serenity. Light flips, everyone drives off, and you can go back to listening to your own music.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello evince,

Raw capitalism without regulation would self-destruct.
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Agreed. It'd be a living incarnation of "Highlander":

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Dutch Uncle said:
Only for my last two years of college. The first two I lived near Denver and went to Arapaho Community College. The bunker building was brand new then.

I went to a couple of great concerts at Folsom Stadium over the summers of ‘77 and ‘78. There were never any in Greeley that I remember. Might have been at CSU. Orion’s Belt was big in Fort Collins at the time.
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I used to get high on Farrand Field at 4:20 A.M. and 4:20 P.M. on 4/20. I'm a season ticket holder for the Buffs. After spending my time in CO in Boulder for the past 20 years and 1 month, I'm moving to Denver this week.

There still isn't anything in Greeley (except the cows). I go up there from time to time, but nothing happens there.
 
Diesel said:
I used to get high on Farrand Field at 4:20 A.M. and 4:20 P.M. on 4/20. I'm a season ticket holder for the Buffs. After spending my time in CO in Boulder for the past 20 years and 1 month, I'm moving to Denver this week.

There still isn't anything in Greeley (except the cows). I go up there from time to time, but nothing happens there.
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I flew up to Cheyenne from Centennial Airport in the 1990s and right over Greeley. It's grown a lot. There's (or was if they aren't beefalo burgers now) a large herd of buffalo south of town. About 400 head.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I flew up to Cheyenne from Centennial Airport in the 1990s and right over Greeley. It's grown a lot. There's (or was if they aren't beefalo burgers now) a large herd of buffalo south of town. About 400 head.
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That herd has a pretty wide range. We can always tell when it's going to snow in Boulder because a few hours beforehand we can smell the cow shit from Greeley. It's insane and never fails.
 
Diesel said:
That herd has a pretty wide range. We can always tell when it's going to snow in Boulder because a few hours beforehand we can smell the cow shit from Greeley. It's insane and never fails.
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Back in the day, when Greeley held the world's largest feedlot east of town (now, Garden City, KS IIRC), the winds were usually out of the west. When the winds came from the east, the smell often become overpowering and took awhile to become accustomed.
 
The USA, with about 5% of the world population, currently has about 25% of the world's COVID patients in Serious or Critical Condition.

Thanks, right wing extremists!

One week in America, ending on the 20 year anniversary of 911: Sunday through Saturday, concluding yesterday, 7,527 Americans died of COVID-19.

Most of them didn't have to die at all; because they didn't get vaccinated.

Many of them said just before they died they wished they had gotten vaccinated.

Many of their survivors refused to get vaccinated until it hit close to home and they lost their loved one. THEN they decided to go get vaccinated.
 
PoliTalker said:
The USA, with about 5% of the world population, currently has about 25% of the world's COVID patients in Serious or Critical Condition.

Thanks, right wing extremists!

One week in America, ending on the 20 year anniversary of 911: Sunday through Saturday, concluding yesterday, 7,527 Americans died of COVID-19.

Most of them didn't have to die at all; because they didn't get vaccinated.

Many of them said just before they died they wished they had gotten vaccinated.

Many of their survivors refused to get vaccinated until it hit close to home and they lost their loved one. THEN they decided to go get vaccinated.
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Republicans don't care...which is odd since most of them are Trump fans. LOL

How COVID-19 death rates impacted 2020 presidential voting patterns

Death by political party: The relationship between COVID-19 deaths and political party affiliation in the United States


America’s Republicans Are Killing Their Voters
 
People keep dying. That changes the math.

2,047 people have died for every 1 million Americans.

1,000,000 / 2047 = 488.51

That means it is now 1 in 489 Americans that have died of corona.
 
PoliTalker said:
There are currently 1,965 Deaths/1M pop in the USA.

That's a lot.

If we divide 1,000,000 by 1,964 we get a bit more than 509.

That means 1 out of every 509 Americans has died of Corona.

Those are real numbers. Math doesn't lie or spin.

It's getting to the point where you need to ask yourself:

(And this is especially true if you are not vaccinated)

"Do you feel lucky?"
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WOW.....two-tenths of a percent of the American population.




lets shut down the country ...put people out of work behind on rent and force business to shut down for good
 
Well, the major news media seems to have picked up on this story now.

The timing of when that 1 in 500 milestone occurred depends on which data set is being utilized. The one I've been using for this thread seems to be a little ahead of the others. No matter. They catch up in time.

Worldometer is showing 2072 deaths per million Americans now.

Let's do the math.

1,000,000 / 2072 = 483

We blew away the 500 figure.

Left it behind.

Now, it is 1 out of every 483 Americans dead from the pandemic.

Please protect yourself and protect others.

Once life is over, that's it.

So many people die when there is so much they could still live for.

And it sure would be nice to get this pandemic behind us.

Do your part, will you please?

Thanks!
 
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