Debunking Covid stupidity part one: Vaccines DO slow the spread

[Into the Night]

hey look im a big fan of the gig economy.
I managed to leverage myself into a work at home job @ $30/hr. most pay close to minimum
but i found one that pays better for top agents, so I studied and did all due dilligence and have had that gig for 15 years.

But while there are a lot of jobs out there -switching to a new one or s different state isn't for everyone

Then there are the mandate firings when we have worker shortage..so it dont all come EZ

I never claimed it was going to be easy.

 

[Into the Night]

And there will be more variants/ mutations , hopefully not worse then the delta, the VAX will help blunt this

There is no such thing as a Delta variant of covid19. You can't have a variant of a variant.

 

[Into the Night]

This is purely political for conservatives.

This is purely political.

 

[Blackcat13th]

Death rate actually trended downward at 1.19% from an avg of 1.3 from the five years prior.

https://www.google.com/amp/knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/Death-rate?mode=amp

And note the inexcusable difference between the cashed google page and the current. Lol


https://knoema.com/atlas/United-Sta.../United-States-of-America/Death-rate?mode=amp

Sloppy Whores.

200,000 dead?

300,000 dead?

600,000 dead?

 

[Into the Night]

Uneducated hillbilly , everyone in NYC isn't vaxed especially young children, now go rotate the tires on your trailer house cletus

So the vaccine mandates in a Democrat run shithole aren't working, eh?

Paradox V.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

This is purely political for conservatives.

. Per the Kaiser Family Foundation, only 59 percent of Republicans and 68 percent of independents are already vaccinated, versus 91 percent of Democrats.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

There is no such thing as a Delta variant of covid19. You can't have a variant of a variant.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cranial rectal inversions

 

[volsrock]

. Per the Kaiser Family Foundation, only 59 percent of Republicans and 68 percent of independents are already vaccinated, versus 91 percent of Democrats.

And blacks are the least vaxed of all

 

[ExpressLane]

Yeah yeah yeah.

Good that you agree Brah!

 

[Lightbringer]

Was that a question troll?

No, it was a statement of fact.

 

[Concart]

No, it was a statement of fact.

You might want to check the definition of ‘fact’ there little fella. Do you have anything intelligent to say? Ever? Or should I just add you to the troll list? Never mind I know the answer.

 

[Lionfish]

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,

...Thankfully they are only endangering themselves ...

No, I disagree.

Those who claim they have no fear may be healthy of body, able to withstand an infection without symptoms, but they foolishly pass the disease on to others who die or have long term health issues from it.

That's the problem.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Concart,

The primary reason I'm here. To learn just how fucking stupid they are so I'm prepared when I meet them in the real world. And to hammer home the point that they don't give a fuck about anyone else, so I shouldn't give a fuck about them.

I still care about my fellow Americans, even if I can't talk to them and they hate me for telling the truth. They are my fellow citizens. I want them to be well and have a happy life.

I want to hold on to hope that our country can be reunited somehow, some way, some day.

A united America is my goal. I wish to make it everyone's goal.

United we stand. Divided we fall. We have to strive to be united.

Such a view is not a weakness. It is actually strength. It is the backbone of the spirit of America.

I am not thinking of myself. I am thinking of my country.

I am not asking what my country can do for me.

I am asking what I can do for my country.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,



No, I disagree.

Those who claim they have no fear may be healthy of body, able to withstand an infection without symptoms, but they foolishly pass the disease on to others who die or have long term health issues from it.

That's the problem.

Yes, that is true. I stand corrected.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,

Yes, that is true. I stand corrected.

It's like, who is gonna go get tested if they have no symptoms, right? In many cases that's happening. 40% of patients don't have any symptoms. The only reason the 40% were found was because those people were required to get tested, or they did so voluntarily. What do you want to bet the true number, including all those who get and transmit the disease without ever identifying it, is far higher?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It's like, who is gonna go get tested if they have no symptoms, right? In many cases that's happening. 40% of patients don't have any symptoms. The only reason the 40% were found was because those people were required to get tested, or they did so voluntarily. What do you want to bet the true number, including all those who get and transmit the disease without ever identifying it, is far higher?

On the news last night (NBC), an epidemiologist was saying that he suspects that the true number of those infected is twice what is being reported. For the reasons you mentioned, above. He said he thinks that the at-home test kits should have an auto-report function so that they can keep better track of the real numbers.

 

[volsrock]

This is simple math. Let's take a look at an example using the Delta variant:

Vaccinated people are five times less likely to be infected with the Delta variant. This is a fact. If you don't accept it as fact, please skip posting here and pick up a book instead.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

The R0 of Delta with no mitigation factors is somewhere around 5-7, let's go with five for this exercise:

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28/7/taab124/6346388

Okay, now lets start. 200 people are exposed to a person the Delta variant, 100 are vaccinated, 100 are unvaccinated. Given the delta and the efficacy of the vaccines:

7 unvaccinated people will get the variant
2 vaccinated people will get the variant (I'm erring on the side of caution, it's actually less than two)

If the group had been 100 percent vaccinated, 3 people would have gotten the virus, instead of nine. Each iteration increases the infection exponentially. This is simple math. Three is less than nine. Therefore vaccines slow the spread. If enough people are vaccinated, and additional mitigation is used, the R0 will quickly drop below 1.

Any questions? If you are having trouble understanding, see the teacher for assignment to the remedial window licker class.

New COVID-19 cases in US soar to highest levels on record

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-c69d1521b6411b6b78aae85d95165f5c


Wow the vax is slowing the spread

 

[Concart]

Hello Concart,



I still care about my fellow Americans, even if I can't talk to them and they hate me for telling the truth. They are my fellow citizens. I want them to be well and have a happy life.

I want to hold on to hope that our country can be reunited somehow, some way, some day.

A united America is my goal. I wish to make it everyone's goal.

United we stand. Divided we fall. We have to strive to be united.

Such a view is not a weakness. It is actually strength. It is the backbone of the spirit of America.

I am not thinking of myself. I am thinking of my country.

I am not asking what my country can do for me.

I am asking what I can do for my country.

Mine too. But a large percentage of the population is incorrigible. They cannot be redeemed. It is what it is. If you can't cure the cancer, you need to remove it.

 

[Concart]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,



It's like, who is gonna go get tested if they have no symptoms, right? In many cases that's happening. 40% of patients don't have any symptoms. The only reason the 40% were found was because those people were required to get tested, or they did so voluntarily. What do you want to bet the true number, including all those who get and transmit the disease without ever identifying it, is far higher?

We're traveling today, so we both took an at home test. Quick and easy. They do collect all my information, and I assume the results are reported in some manner. I guess it depends on what technology you use. I had to use my phone to capture the result, there was no other way to get the it.