Don't blame Limbaugh for our faults

you presented only outcome, not reasons why....you only showed disparate numbers and that alone is not factual proof of racism....if it was, then i could say that because there are more black people in the NBA, overall numbers and their percentage to the overall population, then the NBA is racist.....

Wrong again sir.

I gave you studies and investigations from a plethora of different sources, including the DEA.

You gave me unlearned and unstudied opinion founded in bullshit, not facts, not evidence.

You are entitled to your opinion .. but that's all you have .. unfounded opinion.

I got you sir .. I fully understand where you're coming from.
 
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Isn't context important? Has anyone taken what you said out of context?

SM...i don't have the context, but some things stand alone....and yes, context does matter....unless you can show me that the context changes that sentence, which i believe stands alone....i will view it as racist
 
Wrong again sir.

I gave you studies and investigations from a pethora of different sources, including the DEA.

You gave me unlearned and unstudied opinion founded in bullshit, not facts, not evidence.

You are entitled to your opinion .. but that's all you have .. unfounded opinion.

I got you sir .. I fully understand where you're coming from.

why isn't the NBA racist, according to your cites, the racial disparity of NBA players isn't equal.....thus is racist
 
why isn't the NBA racist, according to your cites, the racial disparity of NBA players isn't equal.....thus is racist

As I've said to you before, sometimes brother you just don't make any sense at all.

Instead of presenting factual counter-argument, studies, evidence and investigations .. you give me some bullshit about the NBA.

No disrespect intended my brother, but there is no point in us having this conversation. I have no intention of comparing facts to unfounded opinion. That's an ignorant conversation that only ignorant people engage in.
 
Hmmm you bring up an interesting point about the socialist nature of pro sports. You are correct it is a quasi socialist business model but pro sports are a bit unique in that the employees (the players) are the product.

I wonder what conservatives think about this? Should pro-sports adopt the free market model?

It's not a good point. It's a stupid point. A socialist business model, lol.

Besides, I do not believe all the employees share in profits. I seriously doubt the people working the gates are getting a piece of any of it.
 
SM...i don't have the context, but some things stand alone....and yes, context does matter....unless you can show me that the context changes that sentence, which i believe stands alone....i will view it as racist


He wants context so he can find some wiggle room and explain it away.

The bloods and the crips statement is pretty damning, as well, especially since it directly relates to the game.
 
SM...i don't have the context, but some things stand alone....and yes, context does matter....unless you can show me that the context changes that sentence, which i believe stands alone....i will view it as racist
Why is it that you think folks can level an accusation at someone and not back it up? Aren't we innocent until proven guilty? Or does that ideal pertain to everything except the race card?
 
why isn't the NBA racist, according to your cites, the racial disparity of NBA players isn't equal.....thus is racist
I could point out the different muscle structure of certain African tribes is different than that of the typical European tribe, but then BAC will call me racist. :D
 
Why is it that you think folks can level an accusation at someone and not back it up? Aren't we innocent until proven guilty? Or does that ideal pertain to everything except the race card?

again...if your claim is that the context changes the meaning of the sentence....then produce it....i gave you his words that i believe make him a racist....why don't you give me the context that you claim shows this is not racist....

:)
 
again...if your claim is that the context changes the meaning of the sentence....then produce it....i gave you his words that i believe make him a racist....why don't you give me the context that you claim shows this is not racist....

:)
Because in America a man is innocent until prove guilty, so the burden of proof is on you. It is also an argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument to ignorance).

I listen to the guy enough to know that there are many, many times when he's being absurd to point out absurdity. Since I don't know the context of this statement, I'll have to give him the benefit of doubt and say that this is one of those times. He is required by the FCC to archive every minute of every program, so the evidence is not hidden to anyone who wants to nail his ass to the wall. I'm not asking you to do that, but you and I both know the man has a lot of enemies, and if they had a valid case they would have obtained the entire context and nailed his ass, becoming heroes to a fawning liberal media. No one's done that, which only reinforces my conclusion.
 
Because in America a man is innocent until prove guilty, so the burden of proof is on you. It is also an argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument to ignorance).

I listen to the guy enough to know that there are many, many times when he's being absurd to point out absurdity. Since I don't know the context of this statement, I'll have to give him the benefit of doubt and say that this is one of those times. He is required by the FCC to archive every minute of every program, so the evidence is not hidden to anyone who wants to nail his ass to the wall. I'm not asking you to do that, but you and I both know the man has a lot of enemies, and if they had a valid case they would have obtained the entire context and nailed his ass, becoming heroes to a fawning liberal media. No one's done that, which only reinforces my conclusion.

what? i gave you evidence, the burden now shifts to you to prove my evidence is wrong.....you know better than to get legal with me :cof1:

and you're the one ignoring the evidence, by ASSuming the context makes the statement not racist....if you want to get legal....then the burden has shifted to you....lets see your proof bad boy
 
what? i gave you evidence, the burden now shifts to you to prove my evidence is wrong.....you know better than to get legal with me :cof1:

and you're the one ignoring the evidence, by ASSuming the context makes the statement not racist....if you want to get legal....then the burden has shifted to you....lets see your proof bad boy
I gave you evidence that disputes yours; that the entire context is archived and nobody will bother to dispute it that way.
 
I gave you evidence that disputes yours; that the entire context is archived and nobody will bother to dispute it that way.

huh....that is not evidence at all....good lord dude...are you joking here?

hey, the sky was purple a million years ago, the evidence is archived and no one alive can dispute that....:rolleyes:

you're the one that claims that context exists....get it and show me i'm wrong :)
 
I gave you evidence that disputes yours; that the entire context is archived and nobody will bother to dispute it that way.

Where is it archived? The source is 1990 article and I can't find it online. The show it appeared on must have been pre-1990. Rush might have it archived, but none of us here have access to it. I'd love to provide you with it just to see how you are going to spin it.

Why don't you entertain us with an explanation of the "bloods and crips" comment. Here http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910120009 you can find full context.

Let me guess how it's going to go.

"He was talking about classless behavior, taunting and excessive celebrations."

Okay, nothing wrong with complaining about that. Plenty of people from all races have complained about it, but why did he need to throw in what was clearly a racially charged statement and stereotype. Maybe he is showing how classy he is?

His intent was obvious. To him, it is a black thing.
 
I thought spurt had the gayest post ever here. Until isaw southernwife beaters vomit.
The commish thinks Rush is a racist. The commish and southernman are on the opposite ends of the class scale.
 
huh....that is not evidence at all....good lord dude...are you joking here?

hey, the sky was purple a million years ago, the evidence is archived and no one alive can dispute that....:rolleyes:

you're the one that claims that context exists....get it and show me i'm wrong :)
Of course it’s evidence:

ev•i•dence
1 a : an outward sign : indication b : something that furnishes proof : testimony; specifically : something legally submitted to a tribunal to ascertain the truth of a matter
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The FCC requires logs of the show(1); Limbaugh has stated many times that he uses audio logs. Logs are required to be archived for two years unless a complaint has been filed; then the incident must be archived until the complaint has been satisfied(2). The complaint would have to be filed under the FCC profanity rules(3). Since we have record of the sentence that you consider offensive a complaint must have been made, or a complaint was made and found to be without grounds.

Sources:

1. Title 47—Telecommunication, Chapter I--Federal Communications Commission, Part 73_Radio Broadcast Services, Subpart H_Rules Applicable to All Broadcast Stations

Sec. 73.1820 Station log.

(a) Entries must be made in the station log either manually by a
person designated by the licensee who is in actual charge of the
transmitting apparatus, or by automatic devices meeting the requirements
of paragraph (b) of this section…
(b) Automatic devices accurately calibrated and with appropriate
time, date and circuit functions may be utilized to record entries in
the station log …

2. Ibid, Sec. 73.1840 Retention of logs.

(a) Any log required to be kept by station licensees shall be retained by them for a period of 2 years. However…Logs incident to or involved in any claim or complaint of which the licensee has notice shall be retained by the licensee until such claim or complaint has been fully satisfied or until the same has been barred by statute limiting the time for filing of suits upon such claims.

3. Ibid, Sec. 73.4170 Obscene, Indecent and Profane broadcasts. FCC Consumer Fact Sheet http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/obscene.html “The FCC has defined profanity as ‘including language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.’”
 
Don't blame Limbaugh for our faults

....

Limbaugh tried to become a minority owner of a professional football team and some of us behaved as if he was one of the young men caught on video beating Derrion Albert to death in the streets of Chicago.

I'm not a Limbaugh fan but I'm not upset over him being involved in purchasing a team either. I would simply give his squad the same amount of support I give his other projects -- none. There are just more pressing things to focus on.

If the NAACP or NFLPA speaks with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on societal or image matters, I would rather they talk about new ways to improve the public education system in cities where NFL teams are located than give an opinion on who buys a team.

Limbaugh may be a racist, but he is not the reason there are more black men in prison than in college. We are.

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/15/granderson.limbaugh.civil.rights/index.html

good article and i agree with most everything the author said....

This traitor needs to be executed. What a piece of shit worthless human being.
 
Where is it archived? The source is 1990 article and I can't find it online. The show it appeared on must have been pre-1990. Rush might have it archived, but none of us here have access to it. I'd love to provide you with it just to see how you are going to spin it.

Why don't you entertain us with an explanation of the "bloods and crips" comment. Here http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910120009 you can find full context.

Let me guess how it's going to go.

"He was talking about classless behavior, taunting and excessive celebrations."

Okay, nothing wrong with complaining about that. Plenty of people from all races have complained about it, but why did he need to throw in what was clearly a racially charged statement and stereotype. Maybe he is showing how classy he is?

His intent was obvious. To him, it is a black thing.

In the same transcript Limbaugh states that "Ladanian Tomlinson is the classiest player in the NFL...". What is obvious is that he's comparing Tomlinson's sportsmanship with the unsportsmanlike behavior of many other NFL players.

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