IRS Hiring Gun-Carrying Agents in all 50 States

[anatta]

They shouldn't collect taxes from mafia, gang members, and other criminals who may be armed?

I doubt they collect taxes at the barrel of a gun. *sign this check or else*

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Why is Volsrock so worried? He probably never ever made enough money to even pay taxes.

His parents probably still carry him as a dependent!

 

[Taichiliberal]

A review of the IRS job board shows the agency is seeking to hire armed agents in all 50 states.

https://www.atr.org/irs-hiring-gun-carrying-agents-in-all-50-states/

Gestapo is here

Hmm, 360 additional special IRS agents (for over 331 million citizens per the 2022 census) to work on suspected CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Criminal Activity such as corporate illegal activity or organized crime groups.


Mind you, I'm all for definite reform of our tax system (like inherited wealthy paying more taxes). But I don't see any of these special agents knocking down the doors of a magazine shop owner who screwed up on their taxes or schmoes like you and I doing the same...even if 1 year of some income not reported. Remember, general audits are random. What this site you listed points to are suspected crimes where a hell of a lot money is involved. Remember, it was a tax audit that got mobster Al Capone sent to jail...NOT blazing gun battles and such like Untouchables movie.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Why is Volsrock so worried? He probably never ever made enough money to even pay taxes.

His parents probably still carry him as a dependent!

It's part of the "Deep State" propaganda that anti-gov't/white separatist and the like have been hand wringing about for years. The tactic: find a common complaint ALL Americans can share and then incorporate that into the propaganda. Sad.

 

[Althea]

There have always been armed IRS agents, I’m surprised volsrock is just now finding this out.

Hannity just told him

 

[Lionfish]

The IRS got Al Capone. Federal Air Marshals got... Hmmm... Uhmmm... Can anyone remember a success of the Federal Air Marshals? Even one?

They make 4.2 arrests a year, for an average cost of $200 million per arrest. The vast majority of the arrests are for drunk and disorderly offenses. Basically people shouting loudly. So we are spending more than the cost of a new plane to arrest someone who is shouting loudly. We could save money by just leaving him on the plane, and buying a new plane for the trip. Sooner or later, the drunkard would leave the plane of his own accord.

I am only half joking.

Yea wally, We spend millions on nuclear weapons but do not use them either. Your logic sucks.

 

[Walt]

Yea wally, We spend millions on nuclear weapons but do not use them either. Your logic sucks.

We spend billions on nuclear weapons, and have spent trillions. It is an actual deterrent which could be used. If one day we wanted to start using the Federal Air Marshalls to do more, they would still do the same as now.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I doubt they collect taxes at the barrel of a gun. *sign this check or else*

really? what do you think happens if you don't pay taxes and then resist their attempts to collect?

 

[Walt]

really? what do you think happens if you don't pay taxes and then resist their attempts to collect?

Usually, the IRS seizes assets for failure to pay. For the most part, they will not even arrest for failure to pay. They mostly arrest for actually tax fraud, lying about how much is owed Failure to pay mostly ends up being a civil issue.

There could be violence when they attempt to seize assets. Obviously, they can take away the money in the bank with no violence, but taking someone's home does involve moving them away from their home. The IRS does not personally do that, but rather has other government law enforcement do it.

IRS special agents are mostly used for questioning potentially violent suspects. That both requires the IRS involvement, and also requires being armed. It is not a common occurrence, which is why there are so few armed special agents needed.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Usually, the IRS seizes assets for failure to pay. For the most part, they will not even arrest for failure to pay. They mostly arrest for actually tax fraud, lying about how much is owed Failure to pay mostly ends up being a civil issue.

There could be violence when they attempt to seize assets. Obviously, they can take away the money in the bank with no violence, but taking someone's home does involve moving them away from their home. The IRS does not personally do that, but rather has other government law enforcement do it.

IRS special agents are mostly used for questioning potentially violent suspects. That both requires the IRS involvement, and also requires being armed. It is not a common occurrence, which is why there are so few armed special agents needed.

my point was that every law written comes with the threat of death for non compliance.

 

[Walt]

my point was that every law written comes with the threat of death for non compliance.

Really? Very few laws have a death penalty.

 

[Nordberg]

The IRS CI branch of the IRS are law enforcement officers who investigate and arrest criminals concluding some violent ones and narcotic traffickers. They work in collaboration with Federal and local police agencies.

 

[Into the Night]

Anyone carry a gun for the federal government is required to be firearm qualified.

There is no 'firearm qualified'. Anyone can carry a gun.

That means they are not just trained, and tested, but they go through continual training and testing.

Blatant lie.

The IRS generally hires their special agents from other federal law enforcement agencies.

Blatant lie.

They have such a small number of special agents it does not make sense for them to train their own.

So you have no problem with people that are untrained in tax law shooting people over a dispute, right?

This really is a very, very small law enforcement force. I do not see what the big deal is.

Law enforcement is not law. Rogue agents can occur in any force.

 

[Into the Night]

Night actually caught on to the insanity. The alt right says everyone should carry a gun, except a few highly trained federal law enforcement agents?

Never said any such thing. Go back and read it again.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Really? Very few laws have a death penalty.

try not obeying an unconstitutional law, then resisting the arrest..........every law comes with the implicit threat of death for non compliance

 

[Into the Night]

So citizens can open carry a gun in New York?

The SOTNY is no longer a State. It is currently an oligarchy.

However, no matter how oppressive a government, the right of self defense using any weapon is still there. No government can take that away. The right is inherent.

Someday, the people of New York may throw off the yoke of their oppressive government and become a republic once again, possibly even joining the other States of America in a restored Union.
It won't be pretty when it happens though.

 

[Into the Night]

They shouldn't collect taxes from mafia, gang members, and other criminals who may be armed?

No. Such criminals belong in jail.

 

[Into the Night]

I have always been in favor of gun control. Anyone carrying or owning a gun should go through a background check, and get training. And some people just should not be allowed to own or carry a gun.

I believe that for citizens, and I believe that even more for law enforcement.

Unconstitutional. I already know you discard the Constitution and all State constitutions.

 

[Into the Night]

Why on earth would a IRS special agent shoot me over a tax debt? They want to get the debt paid, not to shoot someone over it.

RQAA.

 

[Into the Night]

Teachers are not considered law enforcement agents. School law enforcement agents are considered law enforcement agents, as are IRS special agents.

Irrelevant. Straw man fallacy.