Oil demand growth is set to significantly slow by 2028 thanks to the use of more EVs.

[gfm7175]

62.7% of 1% is only 0.62% of total car sales.

There you go again, ruining liberal wet dreams with basic mathematics.

 

[Into the Night]

There you go again, ruining liberal wet dreams with basic mathematics.

Nah. It doesn't ruin their wet dream. They discard mathematics.

 

[gfm7175]

Nah. It doesn't ruin their wet dream. They discard mathematics.

The wet dream irrationally lives on!

Johnny Libtard is LOUD and PROUD of his irrationality!!! ONE MORE DAY OF PRIDE MONTH!!!!!!

 

[Joe Capitalist]

If you want to find another way to restore power when the lights go out, General Motors may have you covered.

The auto company has a new business unit, GM Energy, which will start offering the Ultium Home energy system, a suite of vehicle-to-home products that people can use to provide back up energy.
The products' technology and storage capabilities will allow electric vehicle owners to use their cars to provide power when there's an outage.
Customers can buy the products in bundles but GM Energy hasn't said what the packages will cost or when they will be available, adding that both will depend on what a given customer chooses to purchase.
"Certain Ultium Home product bundles are planned to be available for order in the fall of 2023," Samantha Kennedy, a spokeswoman, said. "More information on that, as well as information relating to how customers can order the initial Ultium Home products, will be made available in future updates."

 

[Joe Capitalist]

And the stress on our power grid is increasing meaning more fossil fuels are required to keep up with the pace

You need not wet your panties over it, TinkerBitch. Renewables will take care of the power grid increase.
Everybody wins (except MAGAs of course) BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

 

[Joe Capitalist]

How exactly do you think our grid is powered?

By magic?

The more you stress it the more fossil fuel you need to power it

Not rocket science

THIS CHINESE-MADE EV CAN TRAVEL 640 MILES ON A SINGLE CHARGE

“There are no boundaries to the EV industry in the future.”
by Brett Aresco*/*July 1, 2023

With more and more Americans switching to electric vehicles — EVs now account for around 6% of all new vehicles — performance is becoming just as important as availability.*
That’s why it’s a pretty big deal that Chinese automaker Zeekr has unveiled a new model, the 2023 Zeekr 001, an electric car that can reportedly travel a whopping 641 miles on a single charge.
If the new vehicle can deliver on its purported specs, it will represent a milestone moment in EV development. Automotive news website Motor1.com writes that the 2023 Zeeker 001 would be “the world’s longest-range production vehicle to our knowledge,” as the car would be capable of driving from Washington, D.C. to Atlanta, Georgia on a single charge.*

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Conservatives always come out against sustainable, domestic sources of energy.

It's like their new "anti-business, anti-jobs" stance. Just weird.

Study says switching to EVs could save more than 89,000 lives by 2050

A new study by the American Lung Association tells us many things we already knew but didn’t really want to hear. Noxious gasses emitted from fossil fuel-burning engines cause a litany of health issues over time. Asthma, heart disease, and lung disease are all byproducts of toxic fumes, and although it seems obvious, more EVs and less gas-powered cars will benefit our own health and not just improve global warming.
The report projects that if just the U.S. could figuratively and literally clean up its automotive act and achieve 100% zero-emissions vehicle sales and generate non-combustion electricity by 2035, it could dramatically change the landscape of American health.
How dramatically? By 2050, the study projects almost a $1 trillion reduction in healthcare costs, more than 89,000 fewer premature deaths, and 2.2 million fewer asthma attacks in just the U.S. alone. All those health benefits correlate to a total of nearly 11 million fewer lost workdays, which translates to a mountain of productivity (and income) for businesses across the country.

So while many of us still revel in the sound and feel of a small block V-8 ripping through the gears, exhaust roaring proudly, we have to come to grips with the idea that those days need to end, or at least be reduced significantly. Change isn’t easy for anyone, even when it’s change for the collective betterment of the world. Getting there will require more than just consumers switching to EVs — manufacturers need to get the costs of electric vehicles down to make them more affordable and the government will have to invest in infrastructure to make the plan feasible. But much like tossing those cigarettes in the trash, or trying out a veggie burger, while it might feel strange today, our future selves and the world will be grateful we finally embraced the change, because it really is a good thing.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

How exactly do you think our grid is powered?

By magic?

The more you stress it the more fossil fuel you need to power it

Not rocket science

Technology improves, TinkerBitch.


TOYOTA’S NEWEST BREAKTHROUGH COULD BE THE ‘KISS OF DEATH’ FOR GAS-POWERED CARS — AND COULD HIT THE MARKET AS EARLY AS 2027

The breakthrough occurred on two fronts.

by Mary Swansburg*/*July 9, 2023

Toyota has announced exciting advancements in batteries for electric vehicles (EVs), which are pointing to longer battery life by as early as 2026. The breakthrough occurred on two fronts: increased optimization of lithium-ion batteries and advancements in solid-state batteries for EVs.*
Findings for lithium-ion batteries will result in increased battery life and shorter charging time, common concerns among prospective EV buyers. Current EVs allow for approximately 330 miles on one charge, while the updated battery could handle up to 621 miles.*
Solid-state batteries would take that even further, allowing for approximately 745 miles on one charge. Created for items like pacemakers and smartwatches, they are similar in structure to lithium-ion batteries but historically have not been durable enough to support EVs.*
Toyota’s new breakthrough could put EVs with solid-state batteries on the market by 2027, and they have mentioned zeroing in on a more affordable manufacturing process — leaning more on automated processing than human labor on an assembly line.*
Best of all, EVs provide a long list of user benefits.*
Currently, it costs about half as much to power an electric car than it does a gasoline-powered vehicle. Public charging costs are expensed by the minute — meaning that with the breakthroughs in battery life, owning an EV will become even more affordable.*
On top of that, there are federal and local monetary incentives depending on where you live, and EVs require less maintenance overall.*
EVs also leave a much smaller impact on the environment. Just one electric car on the road can save 1.6 tons of pollution annually, while gas-powered vehicles produce, on average, over 10,000 pounds of harmful gases per year.*
In a recent Reuters article, solid-state batteries were called “the kiss of death” for gasoline-powered cars — speaking to just how convenient and wallet-friendly this new batch of EVs may be.*

 

[serendipity]

California shut down it's last nuclear power plant just last year. It has also been shutting down coal, oil, and natural gas power plants.

They generate less than a GW of their own electricity now.

Incorrect, Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant is still very much up and running. The nuclear power plant supplies about 17 percent of California's zero-carbon electricity and 9 percent of total electricity.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dia...AxXJTGwGHSCxCnIQvsQGegQIFBAs#lpg=cid:CgIgAQ==

 

[PostmodernProphet]

The products' technology and storage capabilities will allow electric vehicle owners to use their cars to provide power when there's an outage.

it's only fair, given that the houses will have to provide power to the vehicles when there isn't an outage......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

niobium is good news......the primary sources are in Canada and Brazil, rather than China......

 

[Joe Capitalist]

And the stress on our power grid is increasing meaning more fossil fuels are required to keep up with the pace

Nope. Less gas will be needed to run our cars so more gas will be available to run our power grid. Isn't that great news, TinkerBitch?
Everybody wins. Everybody's happy. Even you.

STARTUP DEVELOPS NEW ‘I-STATE’ BATTERY THAT COULD MAKE ELECTRIC CARS CHEAPER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE THAN LITHIUM-ION

“Conventional Li-ion … has well-known limitations for the future. I-State goes further.”

by Erin Feiger*/*July 10, 2023

The race is on to reach net-zero transportation goals, and CleanTechnica recently reported that Swiss-German startup Innolith is helping to drive us toward a cleaner future.
The company, which believes everyone should be able to benefit from electric vehicles (EVs), is on a mission to make electric mobility a universal reality. It just announced its plans to market its newly approved, high-performance I-State battery for EVs.
EVs are inarguably better for the environment than gas-powered cars, but batteries and their production still have a way to go in this department. The I-State battery is Innolith’s approach not only to making EVs available to everyone but also to making them even more sustainable.*
Mining for materials used in traditional lithium-ion batteries damages the environment and causes pollution. Once made, they are also difficult to recycle, even though new advances are poised to improve that equation.*
While the pros may outweigh the cons, the cons are still there. The technology used in the I-State battery reduces those cons by lowering the carbon footprint of an EV battery while also cutting down manufacturing costs and increasing energy density.*
The battery is innovative in that it uses an inorganic liquid electrolyte, which allows it to operate at higher voltages than lithium-ion batteries. This further allows the battery to deliver an increase in energy density while also significantly reducing fire safety risks. It also results in improved performance in both low and high temperatures.
The I-State battery uses 20% fewer rare-earth metals per kilowatt-hour than traditional lithium-ion batteries. The battery is also made with 100% locally produced electrolyte, and the electrolyte is recyclable, collectively making the battery more sustainable.*

 

[Into the Night]

Incorrect, Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant is still very much up and running. The nuclear power plant supplies about 17 percent of California's zero-carbon electricity and 9 percent of total electricity.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dia...AxXJTGwGHSCxCnIQvsQGegQIFBAs#lpg=cid:CgIgAQ==

This plant is slated for closure. There are only two reactors running. One will shut down in 2024 and the last will shut down in 2025.
The EV mandate begins in 2035. How are they going to power all those cars?

That is, if the Reparations BS doesn't tear California apart before then. The revolt against the dictatorship is coming, Sacramento!

 

[Into the Night]

If you want to find another way to restore power when the lights go out, General Motors may have you covered.

The auto company has a new business unit, GM Energy, which will start offering the Ultium Home energy system, a suite of vehicle-to-home products that people can use to provide back up energy.
The products' technology and storage capabilities will allow electric vehicle owners to use their cars to provide power when there's an outage.
Customers can buy the products in bundles but GM Energy hasn't said what the packages will cost or when they will be available, adding that both will depend on what a given customer chooses to purchase.
"Certain Ultium Home product bundles are planned to be available for order in the fall of 2023," Samantha Kennedy, a spokeswoman, said. "More information on that, as well as information relating to how customers can order the initial Ultium Home products, will be made available in future updates."

You can't charge your car when the power is out, dumbass.

 

[Into the Night]

You need not wet your panties over it, TinkerBitch. Renewables will take care of the power grid increase.
Everybody wins (except MAGAs of course) BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Oil and natural gas are renewable energy.
Wind and solar are expensive piddle power. It won't cut it.

 

[Into the Night]

THIS CHINESE-MADE EV CAN TRAVEL 640 MILES ON A SINGLE CHARGE

“There are no boundaries to the EV industry in the future.”
by Brett Aresco*/*July 1, 2023

With more and more Americans switching to electric vehicles — EVs now account for around 6% of all new vehicles — performance is becoming just as important as availability.*
That’s why it’s a pretty big deal that Chinese automaker Zeekr has unveiled a new model, the 2023 Zeekr 001, an electric car that can reportedly travel a whopping 641 miles on a single charge.
If the new vehicle can deliver on its purported specs, it will represent a milestone moment in EV development. Automotive news website Motor1.com writes that the 2023 Zeeker 001 would be “the world’s longest-range production vehicle to our knowledge,” as the car would be capable of driving from Washington, D.C. to Atlanta, Georgia on a single charge.*

A big IF.

What's this car have in it? A 150Mj battery? It's gonna be a HEAVY beast! It'll of course take just that much longer to charge it too.

 

[Into the Night]

Study says switching to EVs could save more than 89,000 lives by 2050

Argument from randU fallacy. Unconstitutional. Making up numbers and using them as 'data' is a fallacy, dummy.

A new study by the American Lung Association tells us many things we already knew but didn’t really want to hear.

Government agencies making up numbers and using them as 'data' is making the same fallacy. So are you by quoting it.

Noxious gasses emitted from fossil fuel-burning engines

Fossils aren't used as fuel. Fossils don't burn.
CO2 is not a 'noxious gas'. It is absolutely essential for life to exist on Earth.

EVs do not reduce CO2. They use almost twice as much energy as a gasoline car of the same size going the same distance. The EV STILL REQUIRES A POWER PLANT, which is probably using natural gas, coal, oil, or is nuclear.

cause a litany of health issues over time. Asthma, heart disease, and lung disease are all byproducts of toxic fumes,

CO2 is not a 'toxic fume'. It does not cause heart disease. It does not cause lung disease. It does not cause asthma. CO2 is in your lungs as a matter of NORMAL FUNCTION.

and although it seems obvious, more EVs and less gas-powered cars will benefit our own health and not just improve global warming.

Bullshit. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
You can't create energy out of nothing.
You cannot trap heat.
You cannot trap light.
You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.
You cannot heat a warmer surface using a colder gas.

The report projects that if just the U.S. could figuratively and literally clean up its automotive act

Nothing to 'clean up'. What you are proposing is fascism, and unconstitutional.

and achieve 100% zero-emissions vehicle sales and generate non-combustion electricity by 2035, it could dramatically change the landscape of American health.

Fascism is unconstitutional.

How dramatically?

...annnnnd here come some more random numbers...

By 2050, the study projects almost a $1 trillion reduction in healthcare costs, more than 89,000 fewer premature deaths, and 2.2 million fewer asthma attacks in just the U.S. alone.

Made up numbers.
CO2 does not cause any healthcare costs.
WTF is 'premature death'??? Buzzword fallacy.
CO2 does not cause asthma.

All those health benefits correlate to a total of nearly 11 million fewer lost workdays,

There are no 'health benefits'. CO2 does not cause the health problems you are making up.

which translates to a mountain of productivity (and income) for businesses across the country.

No. Fascism and communism destroy productivity and income. Destroying 11 million jobs and over 8 percent of the economy is NOT improving productivity.

So while many of us still revel in the sound and feel of a small block V-8 ripping through the gears, exhaust roaring proudly, we have to come to grips with the idea that those days need to end,

Unconstitutional.

or at least be reduced significantly.

Unconstitutional.

Change isn’t easy for anyone, even when it’s change for the collective betterment of the world.

Destroying economies isn't betterment of the world.

Getting there will require more than just consumers switching to EVs — manufacturers need to get the costs of electric vehicles down to make them more affordable and the government will have to invest in infrastructure to make the plan feasible.

Communism. Unconstitutional. Communism and fascism don't work.

But much like tossing those cigarettes in the trash,

This isn't cigarettes. There is no law banning smoking everywhere.

or trying out a veggie burger,

Yuck. You want to force these revolting things as food? Do you know how many vegetarians are malnourished?? A lot.

while it might feel strange today, our future selves and the world will be grateful we finally embraced the change, because it really is a good thing.

Fascism and communism doesn't work, dude. It is tyranny. It is unconstitutional.

Government has NO place manipulating automotive markets.
Government has NO place manipulating energy markets.
Government has NO place demanding property owners install charger stations at their own expense. That is an illegal taking of property and is unconstitutional.

Stop quoting made up numbers. The American Lung Association isn't a study...it's religious preaching.

You STILL don't get it.

EVs must still be charged. That requires POWER PLANTS that burn fuel. Forcing everyone onto EVs (unconstitutionally) requires MORE POWER PLANTS that burn fuel.
EVs are heavy. They have poor stopping ability and handling ability because of their weight and they tear up roads.
The government CANNOT AFFORD the subsidies and the nationalization of charger stations. It is ALREADY BROKE. It is ALREADY IN DEBT for $32 TRILLION dollars! Inflation is already obscenely high due to massive printing of dollars.

Random numbers are NOT data.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

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[T. A. Gardner]

You can't charge your car when the power is out, dumbass.

Maybe he'll get one of these. Only have to pedal for 20 something hours to charge your car...

Note: This doesn't require a petroleum product, produces no pollution, and would be the only acceptable means when it's a nice calm night...

 

[Into the Night]

Technology improves, TinkerBitch.

Not in EVs'. The Li-ION battery remains pretty much unchanged since the 80's. Lithium provides 5.19Kj per mole. It always has. Nothing changes that. To build a 150Mj battery, you need that much more lithium (just under 1 ton).

TOYOTA’S NEWEST BREAKTHROUGH COULD BE THE ‘KISS OF DEATH’ FOR GAS-POWERED CARS — AND COULD HIT THE MARKET AS EARLY AS 2027

No breakthrough. Lithium provides the same 5.19Kj per mole it always has.

The breakthrough occurred on two fronts.

Okay...let's discuss these 'breakthroughs' as reported by this twit report, Mary Swansburg:

by Mary Swansburg*/*July 9, 2023

Toyota has announced exciting advancements in batteries for electric vehicles (EVs), which are pointing to longer battery life by as early as 2026. The breakthrough occurred on two fronts: increased optimization of lithium-ion batteries and advancements in solid-state batteries for EVs.*[/QUOTE]
Lithium-ion batteries are already solid state. No change.

Findings for lithium-ion batteries will result in increased battery life and shorter charging time, common concerns among prospective EV buyers. Current EVs allow for approximately 330 miles on one charge, while the updated battery could handle up to 621 miles.*

TANSTAAFL. Lithium provides 5.19Kj per mole. Nothing changes that. To build a battery that goes 621 miles instead of 330 miles, you must build a bigger battery. That's physics, dude.

Solid-state batteries would take that even further,

Li-ion batteries are already solid state.

allowing for approximately 745 miles on one charge.

To go 745 miles, you need an even BIGGER battery. One that weighs over a ton.

Created for items like pacemakers and smartwatches, they are similar in structure to lithium-ion batteries but historically have not been durable enough to support EVs.*

So you are going to go 745 miles on a coin battery! Gotit! You are fucking CLUELESS, dude.

Toyota’s new breakthrough could put EVs with solid-state batteries on the market by 2027,

Li-ion batteries are already solid-state.

and they have mentioned zeroing in on a more affordable manufacturing process — leaning more on automated processing than human labor on an assembly line.*

Li-ion batteries are already manufactured on automated assembly lines.

Best of all, EVs provide a long list of user benefits.*

NONE that I can find. Oh...that 'health benefits' post of yours, totally made up shit.

Currently, it costs about half as much to power an electric car than it does a gasoline-powered vehicle.

Reversal fallacy. You have it backwards. You are AGAIN ignoring the property TAKEN by force to build charger stations. You are AGAIN ignoring the cost of the lithium or the car. You are AGAIN ignoring the cost of maintenance on EVs. You are AGAIN ignoring the cost of insurance on EVs. You are AGAIN ignoring the true cost of the EV.

Public charging costs are expensed by the minute — meaning that with the breakthroughs in battery life, owning an EV will become even more affordable.*

Sorry dude. Property was taken by force for that charger station at the mall or business.

On top of that, there are federal and local monetary incentives depending on where you live,

That's communism. You are making me pay for YOUR car.

and EVs require less maintenance overall.*

Blatant lie.

EVs also leave a much smaller impact on the environment.

Blatant lie.

Just one electric car on the road can save 1.6 tons of pollution annually,

Define this 'pollution'. CO2 is not 'pollution'.

while gas-powered vehicles produce, on average, over 10,000 pounds of harmful gases per year.*

Okay. Now you are locked in paradox. 10,000 lbs is NOT 1.6 tons. Define 'harmful gases'.

In a recent Reuters article, solid-state batteries were called “the kiss of death” for gasoline-powered cars — speaking to just how convenient and wallet-friendly this new batch of EVs may be.*

Li-ion batteries are solid state. There is no convenience to constantly having to charge your car, drive around heavy EV cars, and performing almost all maintenance through dealership only.