The Car of the Year.............Is Electric. MAGA soils diapers.

[QP!]

You are wrong, completely and totally. For example, the Baker Electric car from 1902 to 1916 was not successful in the market compared to ICE vehicles based on it's much higher cost and the problems associated with recharging it. Sound familiar? It should, the same problems are present today.

ICE vehicles won.

You really are stupid.

Prior EV you would charge at home and have to get back home before charging again.

You are a clown, and just so undeserving of anyone taking you seriously if you think the vast majority of todays EV's drivers face the same issues.

 

[RB 60]

You really are stupid.

Prior EV you would charge at home and have to get back home before charging again.

You are a clown, and just so undeserving of anyone taking you seriously if you think the vast majority of todays EV's drivers face the same issues.

The stupid one is you.

Yep. Prior EVs and recent EVs must charge at home.

Why? Because there's no public chargers here in rural America.

 

[QP!]

no they don't.

your totalitarianism has failed.

you can't make something the future just because you say.

reality doesn't work that way, psychopath.

The way you make it the future is the way it has always been done.

The ICE vehicle would have remained the niche elite toy, many predicted it would remain without gov't across the country deciding to build a network of roads and highways across the cities, States and Nation, and gas retailers giving people a way to get fuel away from home. It was a mix of both government and private interests making sure the ICE vehicle had what was needed to be successful.

Now that same type infrastructure is being rolled out for EV's and people are overwhelming choosing them. I don't make the people choose. They do it.

Reality DOES and always HAS worked that way.

 

[RB 60]

The way you make it the future is the way it has always been done.

The ICE vehicle would have remained the niche elite toy, many predicted it would remain without gov't across the country deciding to build a network of roads and highways across the cities, States and Nation, and gas retailers giving people a way to get fuel away from home. It was a mix of both government and private interests making sure the ICE vehicle had what was needed to be successful.

Now that same type infrastructure is being rolled out for EV's and people are overwhelming choosing them. I don't make the people choose. They do it.

Reality DOES and always HAS worked that way.

If EVs were practical back in the early 1900s, they would have been adapted in the infrastructure. They were not. They still are not.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Gas cars cost about $1,820 in fuel annually for the average car doing 12,000 km.
Maintenance averages at $910 a year, bringing the total to $2,730 for a petrol car.
By contrast, charging an EV would cost around $480 for that distance.
Maintenance of $240 takes annual running costs to $720 for an EV.
So EVs are much cheaper to run.

Sorry MAGA morons. You lose again.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

The way you make it the future is the way it has always been done.

The ICE vehicle would have remained the niche elite toy, many predicted it would remain without gov't across the country deciding to build a network of roads and highways across the cities, States and Nation, and gas retailers giving people a way to get fuel away from home. It was a mix of both government and private interests making sure the ICE vehicle had what was needed to be successful.

Now that same type infrastructure is being rolled out for EV's and people are overwhelming choosing them. I don't make the people choose. They do it.

Reality DOES and always HAS worked that way.

things change.

for a while things are done one way.

and then they are done another.

totalitarianism is a failed ideology.

too many single points of failure.


networks of equally powered individual self-directed nodes will always be more powerful.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

You scum refuse proof.

Ha, you got no proof, MAGA moron. Just admit it and you won't look so foolish.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

You really are stupid.

Prior EV you would charge at home and have to get back home before charging again.

You are a clown, and just so undeserving of anyone taking you seriously if you think the vast majority of todays EV's drivers face the same issues.

He uses an electric vehicle from over 100 years ago as his evidence. It just proves he knows he's lost this argument.
He's just too much of a pussy to admit it.

 

[QP!]

If EVs were practical back in the early 1900s, they would have been adapted in the infrastructure. They were not. They still are not.

Boy you guys are fuckin stupid.

When there was no infrastructure and every car owner had to basically fuel up at home (Steam, EV, etc) and return home to fuel up, there were many competing ways to fuel these mostly novelty automobiles.

It was the rise of cheap oil and the profit motive attached that allowed for ICE vehicle to beat out the rest, as roads were built and private gasoline sellers were able to build infrastructure to supply them

So it was the ACCESS to fuel which then allowed a ICE vehicle to fuel up outside of home that was the game changer for that technology.

Now, whether you like it or not, EV's are getting the same advantage with fueling (charging stations) being developed across the country.

You guys denial is laughable as it means you know you lost. You and Terry denying charging stations and the ability to get charged (fuel) matters, when that is key to this technology. Range, Charging availability, and Price, and convenience will be the key and with EV's ALL of those things are coming way down, constantly.

 

[QP!]

He uses an electric vehicle from over 100 years ago as his evidence. It just proves he knows he's lost this argument.
He's just too much of a pussy to admit it.

It just shows the depths of stupid people like Terry and RB have to go to try and make their arguments. It shows they do not have anything reasonable they can say.

If your argument is EVs were rejected 100 years ago and thus cannot succeed today, when ALL of the reasons they failed (poor battery tech, no infrastructure for fueling, etc) are being improved each day and are not the issue they were, is just asinine.


Rb and Terry's next argument... since no commercial jet airline or airport infrastructure existed until mid 1900's and the first flights happened way before that, and planes were used as crop dusters and for other local uses, that proves that Jet commercial traffic will never be a thing.

 

[Phyllis Diller]

It just shows the depths of stupid people like Terry and RB have to go to try and make their arguments. It shows they do not have anything reasonable they can say.

If your argument is EVs were rejected 100 years ago and thus cannot succeed today, when ALL of the reasons they failed (poor battery tech, no infrastructure for fueling, etc) are being improved each day and are not the issue they were, is just asinine.


Rb and Terry's next argument... since no commercial jet airline or airport infrastructure existed until mid 1900's and the first flights happened way before that, and planes were used as crop dusters and for other local uses, that proves that Jet commercial traffic will never be a thing.

the numbers don't add up with ev.

it's all just a fascist pro-china malinvestment.

that's the problem with fascism.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

It just shows the depths of stupid people like Terry and RB have to go to try and make their arguments. It shows they do not have anything reasonable they can say.

If your argument is EVs were rejected 100 years ago and thus cannot succeed today, when ALL of the reasons they failed (poor battery tech, no infrastructure for fueling, etc) are being improved each day and are not the issue they were, is just asinine.


Rb and Terry's next argument... since no commercial jet airline or airport infrastructure existed until mid 1900's and the first flights happened way before that, and planes were used as crop dusters and for other local uses, that proves that Jet commercial traffic will never be a thing.

They are blinded by the right. They're using right-wing talking points from 10 years ago because if they used current info, they'd lose every argument.

 

[RB 60]

Boy you guys are fuckin stupid.

When there was no infrastructure and every car owner had to basically fuel up at home (Steam, EV, etc) and return home to fuel up, there were many competing ways to fuel these mostly novelty automobiles.

It was the rise of cheap oil and the profit motive attached that allowed for ICE vehicle to beat out the rest, as roads were built and private gasoline sellers were able to build infrastructure to supply them

So it was the ACCESS to fuel which then allowed a ICE vehicle to fuel up outside of home that was the game changer for that technology.

Now, whether you like it or not, EV's are getting the same advantage with fueling (charging stations) being developed across the country.

You guys denial is laughable as it means you know you lost. You and Terry denying charging stations and the ability to get charged (fuel) matters, when that is key to this technology. Range, Charging availability, and Price, and convenience will be the key and with EV's ALL of those things are coming way down, constantly.

A good friend of mine is the manager at a large dealership here. He says those EVs aren't selling here. The one they had was traded to another dealership for an ICE. The charging station there is dormant. What's that tell you?

 

[QP!]

They are blinded by the right. They're using right-wing talking points from 10 years ago because if they used current info, they'd lose every argument.

it just shows Terry and RB and those like them operate at a Marjorie Greene level of technology understanding.

Terry would be the first to argue, pre todays version of the Internet that such a World wide web that will be adapted by almost everyone would never work back in the days when it was only used by the Military and Uni's primarily.

He would see no browsers, no infrastructure to get it to homes, etc and just keep saying 'it cannot work', even as those things had early forms of development. The entire M.O is to deny technology, during mass commercialization phases improves, which is almost never the case.

 

[QP!]

They are blinded by the right. They're using right-wing talking points from 10 years ago because if they used current info, they'd lose every argument.

it just shows Terry and RB and those like them operate at a Marjorie Greene level of technology understanding.

Terry would be the first to argue, pre todays version of the Internet that such a World wide web that will be adapted by almost everyone would never work back in the days when it was only used by the Military and Uni's primarily.

He would see no browsers, no infrastructure to get it to homes, etc and just keep saying 'it cannot work', even as those things had early forms of development. The entire M.O is to deny technology, during mass commercialization phases improves, which is almost never the case.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

if the last half of a decade has taught intelligent and rational people anything, it's that any publication putting out a '(insert any subject here) of the year award' is most likely full of shit and only pandering to the woke crowd.

take, for example, women of the year......dylan mulvaney, seriously??????

 

[QP!]

A good friend of mine is the manager at a large dealership here. He says those EVs aren't selling here. The one they had was traded to another dealership for an ICE. The charging station there is dormant. What's that tell you?

I say this with all due respect RB, and that is if you think that is intelligent question to ask, I do not know what else to say about you. Let me say this. A good friend of mine had an ICE dealership in the 90's when things were going great and yet he went broke and lost his dealership. What does that tell you about ICE dealerships?

If you do not know, RB why a singular persons experience DOES NOT speak for the industry and could speak to many local factors including that person competence or if his dealership is in an urban or rural area, well, you are Marjorie Greene level.

THIS RB is what you need to consider...

 

[Bill T]

Ha, you got no proof, MAGA moron. Just admit it and you won't look so foolish.

You vermin really are tiresome and stupid. How would I, a no one, have any proof of anything I wasn't involved in? Are you just stupid or an imbecile or both?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And you do not think charging stations across the nation represent a paradigm shift for why someone might choose an EV compared to 50 years ago?

No, because they aren't "all across the nation." They are concentrated in urban areas while rural ones have NONE. For someone living in a larger city, who rarely or never goes on long road trips, and who does only limited daily driving, an EV might work. For anyone with a different lifestyle, it won't.
Even then, EV charging remains a huge issue and problem even in urban areas.

You do not think the battery life (~400 miles) and rapid charging (30 Minutes) as compared to where same was 50 years ago or more represents a paradigm shift.

No, because that's the most optimal and expensive, not the average and affordable. I just installed a Tesla charging station in a guy's home. I set him up for an 80 amp service at 240 VAC. That's, according to the manual that came with the station, a 62 amp charging rate. I watched as he plugged in his Tesla at about 50% charge and the car's screen told him that it would be 4 hours and 40 minutes to a full charge. That's what people are getting, and he's got what I'd say is one of the better set ups for charging.
But I'd add he has to do it on off peak hours or his electric bill is going up by about $100 for the month otherwise.

Terry again you just DO NOT understand technology and CAN ONLY see it once it is DONE and WORKS, like the IBM computer. Something you would have NEVER saw a day prior.

You can't fix the charging rate problem. You can't fix the nature, chemistry, and physics of batteries. What you are trying to do is make everybody go back to using an old 1960's computer instead of modern technology.

That you think there has no been no paradigm shift in the last hundred years of EVs that makes them accessible to people today in ways that did not exist in the past is why you are joke speaking on any tech topic. STOP IT.

I can see fuel cells using hydrogen or ammonia as a shift in automotive technology. Those would work. EV's are a technological dead end and have been for over a century.

 

[Lionfish]

You vermin really are tiresome and stupid. How would I, a no one, have any proof of anything I wasn't involved in? Are you just stupid or an imbecile or both?

Joey wet panties is a special kind of stupid. He made a decision and is now making a weak attempt to sell his mistake to everyone he comes in contact with.
Years ago we got the same shit from prius owners. God bless them for saving gasoline which leaves more for me.