An atheist philosophy of life, per Albert Camus

WinterBorn said:
Is either of them bad?

My best experiences, so far, have been raised great kids and falling in love.
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Good on you.

If nothing exists but physical matter and energy, it ultimately doesn't matter if you choose to indulge in drink and luxury material possessions, or if you choose to nurture and raise a family.

One can just shirk duty and moral responsibility, and the universe won't care - if it's all just matter and energy.

There's nothing wrong with expensive wine and Italian sports cars. But I don't think they make any difference at all to the universe.
My gut instinct is that reducing suffering, or increasing love and harmony makes a real difference to karma, or Qi, or the universal Tao, or some other transcendent truth we can't measure with scientific instruments.
 
Cypress said:
Good on you.

If nothing exists but physical matter and energy, it ultimately doesn't matter if you choose to indulge in drink and luxury material possessions, or if you choose to nurture and raise a family.

One can just shirk duty and moral responsibility, and the universe won't care - if it's all just matter and energy.

There's nothing wrong with expensive wine and Italian sports cars. But I don't think they make any difference at all to the universe.
My gut instinct is that reducing suffering, or increasing love and harmony makes a real difference to karma, or Qi, or the universal Tao, or some other transcendent truth we can't measure with scientific instruments.
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According to many Christians, they can indulge and ask for forgiveness, and they will be forgiven.

I agree with the last sentence wholeheartedly. And by trying to be a better person, we make life around us better.
 
Cypress said:
If nothing exists but physical matter and energy, it ultimately doesn't matter if you choose to indulge in drink and luxury material possessions, or if you choose to nurture and raise a family.
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Does it matter now?

Cypress said:
One can just shirk duty and moral responsibility, and the universe won't care - if it's all just matter and energy.
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No, that's not right. If one wishes to SURVIVE then one will do various things which are required for survival. As a social animal that includes taking part in and being in line with the "rules" that society has.


Cypress said:
There's nothing wrong with expensive wine and Italian sports cars. But I don't think they make any difference at all to the universe.
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They do not.

Cypress said:
My gut instinct is that reducing suffering, or increasing love and harmony makes a real difference to karma, or Qi, or the universal Tao, or some other transcendent truth we can't measure with scientific instruments.
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Why can't you measure the reduction in suffering scientifically? How else do you characterize it?
 
Daylight63 said:
Does it matter now?
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Daylight63 said:
No, that's not right. If one wishes to SURVIVE then one will do various things which are required for survival. As a social animal that includes taking part in and being in line with the "rules" that society has.
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Those 'rules' frequently included slavery, human sacrifice, racism, eradication of the weak and disabled. The fact you have absorbed and internalized a Judeo-Christian ethos (apparently while barely realizing it) does not automatically imply that ethos is universal.
Daylight63 said:
Why can't you measure the reduction in suffering scientifically? How else do you characterize it?
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Dumb question.
Not all questions are science questions. Life is going to be very difficult for you if you need to demand scientific measurements of love, trust, loyalty, friendship.
 
Cypress said:
Those 'rules' frequently included slavery,
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Nope. I doubt anyone was FORCED to own a slave in order to survive.

Cypress said:
human sacrifice,
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Yes it did. Good thing no one actually BELIEVES human sacrifice is necessary to appease a god isn't it? Oh wait, people did so for millennia. And it was part of their understanding of the cosmos.

You know why an atheist is superior to a religious person? Because we know it never has been and it never will be.

The only people you need to worry about human sacrifice are PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN A GOD.


Cypress said:
racism
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Racism is also a feature of religion. Look at Judaism. If you read the Old Testament the Jews were so superior to all other people at the time taht the CREATOR OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE helped them to slaughter women and children so they could have their lands.

That's racism. And it is at the heart of Judaism and Christianity.

Cypress said:
, eradication of the weak and disabled
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"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Cypress said:
The fact you have absorbed and internalized a Judeo-Christian ethos
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Including the "human sacrifice" stuff? oh, didn't you realize Christianity is FOUNDED ON HUMAN SACRIFICE? No, I didn't take that with me. Also didn't take the "It's ok" view of slavery that Christianity has. Also didn't accept that genocide is something God wants (which is in the Bible). So you are kind of wrong.

Cypress said:
Dumb question.
Not all questions are science questions. Life is going to be very difficult for you if you need to demand scientific measurements of love, trust, loyalty, friendship.
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Dumb response.
 
Daylight63 said:
Nope. I doubt anyone was FORCED to own a slave in order to survive.



Yes it did. Good thing no one actually BELIEVES human sacrifice is necessary to appease a god isn't it? Oh wait, people did so for millennia. And it was part of their understanding of the cosmos.

You know why an atheist is superior to a religious person? Because we know it never has been and it never will be.

The only people you need to worry about human sacrifice are PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN A GOD.




Racism is also a feature of religion. Look at Judaism. If you read the Old Testament the Jews were so superior to all other people at the time taht the CREATOR OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE helped them to slaughter women and children so they could have their lands.

That's racism. And it is at the heart of Judaism and Christianity.



"Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.



Including the "human sacrifice" stuff? oh, didn't you realize Christianity is FOUNDED ON HUMAN SACRIFICE? No, I didn't take that with me. Also didn't take the "It's ok" view of slavery that Christianity has. Also didn't accept that genocide is something God wants (which is in the Bible). So you are kind of wrong.



Dumb response.
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