You sent your troops here without fuel, food, water or a place to sleep - Newsom

AI chatbots mislead users querying LA National Guard photos
published at 10:59
10:59
Shayan Sardarizadeh
BBC Verify senior journalist

AI chatbots are increasingly being used as fact-checking tools, with social media users asking them whether something they have seen online is true or not.

However, incorrect answers from two chatbots are misleading users about the origin of news photos showing National Guard troops, sent to Los Angeles during the recent unrest, sleeping on bare floors.

California Governor Gavin Newsom posted two images on Monday, which he said showed the troops "being forced to sleep on the floor, piled on top of one another”, external.

People who used ChatGPT, designed by OpenAI, to authenticate the pictures were told they dated back to Joe Biden’s withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan in August 2021 - referring to the metadata on the images, external.

Grok, owned by xAI, gave a similar answer to multiple users asking about the images. It said claims the images were linked to the recent unrest in LA "lack credible support”, external.

A screengrab showing the AI tool Grok wrongly attributing social media footage of protests to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021.IMAGE SOURCE,X
When we asked ChatGPT where the pictures came from it told us they were most likely captured during the “National Guard deployment to Washington DC in January 2021”.

The reality is the two images were first published by the San Francisco Chronicle, external on Monday. The paper said it had exclusively obtained the images, which it said showed National Guard troops sleeping on the floor of “one or more” of the federal buildings in Los Angeles that they'd been sent by the Trump administration to protect.

BBC Verify ran a reverse image search on both photos and found no copy of them online before 9 June.


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ChatGPT lies
Grok lies
AI lies

Journalists don't lie. That's why Zionists and Trump's thugs shoot them.
 
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AProudLefty said:
Giving them beds and foods can be a problem?
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Trump couldn't care less about people he considers to be suckers and losers.

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AProudLefty said:
How do you fight while starvating and without sleep? A demoralized troop is not a good thing.

Again, we are not at war. We shouldn't treat it as such.

Give them beds and feed them well.
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DON'T TRY TO PRETEND YOU SUPPORT THE MILITARY!!!

YOU support attacking the military!
YOU support attacking the police!
YOU support riots, arson, and looting!
YOU support organized crime!
YOU support illegal aliens!
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Unlike you, I was in long enough to be in a variety of units and work with other services. Even on ship:

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This is what enlisted berthing today looks like. You are crammed in, and that "coffin locker" you are sleeping on holds all your personal shit along with that tiny "stand up locker." That's it. You live out of a suitcase crammed in with lots of other squids.
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Been there... However, we usually were TDY on ships or boats (subs for you drylanders) so we often had temporary sleeping arrangements. It wasn't always awesome being in Intelligence.
 
Walt said:
From my understanding, absolutely no logistic means absolutely no logistics. That means no MREs. Remember this is a unit without any support from the DOD: no food, no supplies, and most importantly, no DOD credit cards.

Luckily, they are in the second largest city, with more than enough restaurants. Soldiers are being told to break into small groups, use their own money to buy food at restaurants. If trump were telling the truth about LA being invaded by foreigners, or having an insurrection, this strategy would be a disaster. The small groups of soldiers eating at McDonald's would be massacred. But we are lucky here again, because trump is a liar.

The real question is what is happening to the BAS. Once these National Guard troops were federalized, they began receiving $460 a month to take care of their food needs. This money appears to be being sent to Fort Bliss in Texas. So California troops in California have the money for their food being sent to Texas... The way it is supposed to work is they are supposed to be paid directly BAS II, which would be $920 a month so they can buy their own food.

As for skipping meals, I used to know how much forces degrade every meal missed, but that was a long time ago. They will be deployed for weeks or months, so if they skipped a months worth of food, I would expect the majority of them to be dead. Given they have guns, I doubt it would ever come to that.


The officers on the ground are loaning the soldiers who cannot pay for their own food money, and are paying to put diesel in the trucks. Remember they have no DOD credit cards to buy fuel, which means that officers are buying the fuel with their own money. These are officers who have temporarily left good paying jobs, but still have the bills associated with their normal lives. Hopefully, they will get reimbursed sooner or later, but who really knows anymore.

It is seriously fucked up that you would attack these officers.


“Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics", and idiots talk about convincing soldiers to feel things. Real officers are trying to work out the logistics. This is a cluster fuck of epic proportions, and needs to be corrected.


Which is what they are doing. Sadly, the means putting a lot of debt onto their credit cards.


The military spends a huge amount of time and effort on logistics. If you believe that it does not, I have to ask what color is the sky in your universe?


Do you understand that MREs do not grow by the side of the road in LA?


It is called requisitioning. Legally speaking, soldiers can come in at gunpoint, and demand food or other materials be given to them. They will hand over signed requisition forms, that will, in theory, mean the previous owners of the materials will be paid. We are not there yet, but it is a real possibility.

The only thing that is really limited is taking houses for the troops. The Third Amendment makes that unconstitutional in times of peace. trump has claimed it is not a time of peace, but it would still be extremely legally questionable.
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DON'T PRETEND TO SUPPORT THE MILITARY YOU DESPISE!!!
 
moon said:
AI chatbots mislead users querying LA National Guard photos
published at 10:59
10:59
Shayan Sardarizadeh
BBC Verify senior journalist

AI chatbots are increasingly being used as fact-checking tools, with social media users asking them whether something they have seen online is true or not.
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There is no such thing as 'fact checking', moonbat. Go learn what 'fact' means.
 
Into the Night said:
There is no such thing as 'fact checking', moonbat. Go learn what 'fact' means.
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That's a goodie, limp-lobes.
I'll add it to your form sheet. Here we go;


These are recent ' Into the Nightsoil's' statements ;

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" There is no such science as paleoclimatology "
" There is no such thing as an unwritten Constitution "
" There were WMD in Iraq "
"There is no "weaponization of the dollar"
"Covid does not kill ."
"It is not possible to have a variant of a variant. "(Subvariants do not exist )
"Israel doesn't want to eradicate Palestine "
"The Arctic isn't melting "
"I don't need to seek attention"
"The age of the earth is unknown "
" Genocide Joe is a socialist "
" Trump has committed no crime. "
" Climate cannot change "
" There is no such thing as ' fact checking ' "

Dumbass or troll ?
Both.
 
Phantasmal said:
Trump talking to troops claimed Japan fought in WWI, what a moron.
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Japan played a minimal role in WW1 with the lowest number of casualties of all participating countries at 0.01%
Did the Orange Agent pump them up as major contributors ?

Haw, haw.....................................haw.
 
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