Could A Good God Permit So Much Suffering?

[Hume]

Yeah, that’s understandable. People evolved God into something more worthy of worship by that time

Yet Jesus says nothing in Old Testament is false.

 

[Based Chad]

Yeah, that’s understandable. People evolved God into something more worthy of worship by that time

i agree.

and morality matters on a purely rational level as well.

 

[Based Chad]

Yet Jesus says nothing in Old Testament is false.

except he did say the old laws no longer mattered.

 

[Hume]

except he did say the old laws no longer mattered.

No. He says he fulfills the Old Testament.

 

[gmark77]

except he did say the old laws no longer mattered.

Ummm reread Matt 5:18

 

[Based Chad]

Ummm reread Matt 5:18

read galatians 5 for the first time.

 

[Yakuda]

go kill yourself

thats like life blood to me dumbass

 

[Guno צְבִי]

No, you people are just pathological liars. Thats all.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Now you are a practicing baby-killer and sodomy-promoter. Well done.

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[gmark77]

read galatians 5 for the

Remind me if that was after the earth had passed away.....

 

[Cypress]

Some day I will teach you how to stay on topic.

Your opening post is about theodicy, and genocide and slavery are perfectly topical to theodicy.

 

[Cypress]

I believe you might mean enriched uranium. Plutonium was also limited but used in FatMan on Nagasaki. Yes, this is true, but that was only a matter of time.

Is this "universal morality" time limited? Clearly the more moral point would be to demo the bomb. By definition. Inciniterating innocent children is not a moral decision, even if time is limited.

And I say this as someone whose father was on a troop ship for the SOuth Pacific right about that time and would have been in the horrific homeland invasion.

But we are talking morality here, not personal feelings.



ONLY if incinerating innocent children is considered moral.




Sounds like a made-up exemption. I thought we were talking universal morality here.




Wrong. The debate over "Just war" has been ongoing. It was never settled.




I'm an atheist. How can it bother me? I only point to it because it is technically part and parcel of Christianity and has been decreed by the faith to be integral (there was a heresy long ago settled that tried to pare out the OT from the NT. It was considered anathema. If you wish to talk religion please stick to the rules of said religion).

As such you are not allowed to simply dismiss the God of the OT because he makes you uncomfortable. (Although I AM curious what you think "universal morality" means if the author of said morality doesn't seem to follow such universal morals)

As an atheist I can point out the emperors clothing is missing.

Thanks for Google-checking me on the plutonium.

Since there was no realistic possibility of a demonstration detonation, we can take that possibility off the table. In late July of 1945, the allies did openly give Japan a warning of impending doom and utter destruction. It wasn't a sneak attack like Pearl Harbor. Most importantly, I am convinced an atomic attack saved lives in comparison to a seaborne invasion of the Japanese home islands.

Millions of innocent civilians were tragically killed in WW2. The Japanese and the Germans were, hands down, the biggest perpetrators. But WW2 was still fought for morally justified reasons, and I would be shocked at any American who would claim WW2 was not a just war.

On the final tangent, I've never actually met an atheist who was so keen on telling Christians how they are supposed to interpret their scripture and teachings.