I've relied heavily on the work of researchers and medical doctor signatories of the "Settling the Virus Debate" statement. I've actually made 2 threads here on whether biological viruses are real. The first I made in the general forum back in 2022. It can be seen here:
For a while, I've been debating with a certain someone in another thread regarding whether or not biological viruses are real. The thread has gotten rather large and we've been talking about several things in it. I think it makes more sense to separate the discussion on viruses into a thread of its own and will attempt to respond to posts on the subject in other thread here as well.
For those who are unfamiliar with the group of doctors and other professionals who have come to the conclusion that biological viruses aren't real, I invite you to take a look at the following 2 page statement...
Recently, I came to believe that because of the invective that usually comes with discussing this topic, it would be better to talk about it in the Above Plain Politics, where invective is kept to a minimum. That thread can be seen here:
I made a thread that basically had the same premise as this one back in 2022. It had a good run, but then petered off for a long time. It's recently gotten a bit of a renewal, but I've come to believe that this is a subject that will get a lot of people to engage in personal attacks. I was hoping to avoid that this time around and this is the reason that I'm remaking this thread here. Note that I am not saying that the electron microscope photographs that virologists present aren't real microbes, just that they don't actually have the properties that would fit the definition of biological...
I have been known to respond a bit in the old thread, especially if someone is fairly civilized and doesn't have access to the APP forum.
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