Public backs Obama in birth control fight, poll suggests

Darla said:
Oh before the "wah wah wah if we let the bitches use the health insurance they earned in exchange for their labor, it'll cost the MENZ more. what about the MENZZZZZZZ WAH" meme takes hold...it's all bullshit:

http://moneyland.time.com/2012/02/1...rol-will-not-hike-the-cost-of-your-insurance/
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I really don't understand these pussies Darla. If they're such "real men" why the hell do independent women scare the holy fuck out them like this? They're just a bunch of scared little boys is all.
 
Yurt said:
you do realize the SDA church has numerous hospitals and was responsible for the babboon heart....
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No I didn't to be honest with you but I do know that certain sects of the SDA oppose medical intervention. So I fail to see what that has to do with my point.
 
bravo said:
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...........Obama is violating the First Amendment....he is in no position to dictate Catholic policy and what they must support.
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that ship has sailed, scotus has ruled in other cases (55 states require religious organizations to provide contraception and 8 states require churches to offer contraception to their employees)

the religions can still freely exercise their beliefs in church, but may not require others that do not share their beliefs to follow their precepts
 
bravo said:
In her case its medication to treat a medical condition, and not birth control......pregnancy is not a disease....
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Yea well if I was a woman I'd tell you to mind your own fucking business. When's the last time you got knocked up?

I mean one gathers from coservative mens right wing voting habits that you're a bunch of women hating mysogenist. Complications from pregnancy is the 6th leading cause of death in young women but you nazi's want to deny them access to birth control that can help prevent those deaths? Cancer is the 2nd leading cause of death of which the one that kills the most is cervical cancer which is often caused by the HPV. How many women would be alive today if we had mandatory HPV vacination? But Nooooo, for some irrational reason you nitwits seem to think an HPV vaccine turns teenage girls into raving nymphomaniacs! How many young women would still be alive today if it wasn't for you mysoginistic pricks? So Fuck you! It's none of your fucking business what a woman does to protect her health! Get the fuck out of her vagina and mind you're own fucking business!!!

I'm gonna put this to you nimrods in harsh words. Here's the truth about vaginas. If you're lucky a good woman will let you bone it but that don't mean you own it!
 
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Socrtease said:
http://www.msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?id=13358


Birth Control Commonly Used for Non Contraceptive Purposes

"Beyond Birth Control: The Overlooked Benefits of Oral Contraceptive Pills," a study conducted by Rachel Jones of the Guttmacher Institute, revealed that 14 percent of birth control pill users in the United States, or approximately 1.5 million women, take the pill exclusively for purposes other than preventing pregnancy. Moreover, 58 percent of birth control pill users take the pill, "at least in part," for purposes other than contraception.

Rachel Jones, the study's author, stated, "It is well established that oral contraceptives are essential health care because they prevent unintended pregnancies. This study shows that there are other important health reasons why oral contraceptives should be readily available to the millions of women who rely on them each year."

The study found that thirty-one percent of women on the pill used it to ease menstrual pain, 28 percent for menstrual regulation, and 14 percent for reducing acne. According to the study, "762,000 women who have never had sex use the pill, and they do so almost exclusively (99%) for noncontraceptive reasons."

Oooooo sex is EVILZ.
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Well, I think about not continuing this, but the fact is that all over the internet women are having to fight this fight and they are doing it. I guess that I got stuck with you dumb fucks here, and I can't shirk it. (Not you Soc of course)

Let me start by saying to Soc that I feel for his wife, and that many women, some here believe me, have been prescribed birth control pills for these sort of reasons at some point in their lives. And you are very right Soc. But you see the problem right? You say this and what happens? Right away Bravo ran in here with his dick in his hand, and that dick btw bestows upon him the right to make medical pronouncements and moral judgements, to let you know that hey, that's okay. Your wife is one of the good girls. She's on the pill for a good reason. Soc's wife's birth control prescription - approved by Bravo! Yay!

But it's none of Bravo's fucking business. It's none of anyone's business. And if we allow them to start separating good birth control prescriptions from bad ones, we come right back to : women who fuck without permission will be punished, they're bad.

As far as birth control not being a health issue; no one ever claimed that "pregnancy is a disease" So this is just more strawmanning from the cheap seats. What is a medical fact however, is that the planning and spacing of her children is a health issue, and it's a big one. As Rana mentioned earlier, whether to have children at all is a health care choice. How many children does Bravo have? Does he have 17 of them? I doubt it. Even if he did, all that would prove is that he found some idiot willing to destroy her body. It would not give them the right to destroy anyone else's. The fact is that unrelenting pregnancies and childbirth impact women's health. It can even kill them. It always has.

Now, let's go even beyond this. Even accepting the above, you will get some who will say, oh okay if she's married and already a mother: Prescription approved! Yay! Well, no. I want all the men here to sit down for this newsflash, cause boys, it's a stunner:

Women Can Fuck For Pleasure.

Sexuality is a very healthy part of life. And having sex when and with whom she wants to have it, for pleasure, is every woman's right. She doesn't have to choose to utilize it, but it's her right to.

And she is not a slut, she's not a whore, she does not need Bravo's approval. She's a woman. Sexuality is a part of life.

This is about the health insurance she earns in exchange for her labor covering her birth control so that she does not have to have a child every year. Oh you bet that's about her health, physical, mental, sexual, and emotional.
 
Socrtease said:
Absolutely correct you dumb fucker, but the law would allow HER BOSS to determine before hand whether or not to "opt out" not giving her and thousands of other women even the choice to use their insurance to obtain birth control. No woman should have divulge to her boss why she needs birth control or if she needs it at all. But you intrusive fucking righties ONLY see birth control as sex related so you want to be able to stop employers from providing coverage for much needed pills.
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Even if it is sex related last I heard there was nothing in the constitution that said women didn't have a righ to have sex. IT's still none of their business.
 
Darla said:
Well, I think about not continuing this, but the fact is that all over the internet women are having to fight this fight and they are doing it. I guess that I got stuck with you dumb fucks here, and I can't shirk it. (Not you Soc of course)

Let me start by saying to Soc that I feel for his wife, and that many women, some here believe me, have been prescribed birth control pills for these sort of reasons at some point in their lives. And you are very right Soc. But you see the problem right? You say this and what happens? Right away Bravo ran in here with his dick in his hand, and that dick btw bestows upon him the right to make medical pronouncements and moral judgements, to let you know that hey, that's okay. Your wife is one of the good girls. She's on the pill for a good reason. Soc's wife's birth control prescription - approved by Bravo! Yay!

But it's none of Bravo's fucking business. It's none of anyone's business. And if we allow them to start separating good birth control prescriptions from bad ones, we come right back to : women who fuck without permission will be punished, they're bad.

As far as birth control not being a health issue; no one ever claimed that "pregnancy is a disease" So this is just more strawmanning from the cheap seats. What is a medical fact however, is that the planning and spacing of her children is a health issue, and it's a big one. As Rana mentioned earlier, whether to have children at all is a health care choice. How many children does Bravo have? Does he have 17 of them? I doubt it. Even if he did, all that would prove is that he found some idiot willing to destroy her body. It would not give them the right to destroy anyone else's. The fact is that unrelenting pregnancies and childbirth impact women's health. It can even kill them. It always has.

Now, let's go even beyond this. Even accepting the above, you will get some who will say, oh okay if she's married and already a mother: Prescription approved! Yay! Well, no. I want all the men here to sit down for this newsflash, cause boys, it's a stunner:

Women Can Fuck For Pleasure.

Sexuality is a very healthy part of life. And having sex when and with whom she wants to have it, for pleasure, is every woman's right. She doesn't have to choose to utilize it, but it's her right to.

And she is not a slut, she's not a whore, she does not need Bravo's approval. She's a woman. Sexuality is a part of life.

This is about the health insurance she earns in exchange for her labor covering her birth control so that she does not have to have a child every year. Oh you bet that's about her health, physical, mental, sexual, and emotional.
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WooHooo! You Go Girl!!!!!! Give em Hell Darla!!!!! One of the best posts ever!!!!!!!!!
 
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Darla said:
:)

Mott: Much shorter and to the point than Darla.
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Well I must admit a vested interest. I personally like sex and I'm all for educating women on birth control and safe sex and advocating that women enjoy as much safe sex as often as they like.....preferably with me! :)
 
Derp Derp said:
Well I must admit a vested interest. I personally like sex and I'm all for educating women on birth control and safe sex and advocating that women enjoy as much safe sex as often as they like.....preferably with me! :)
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No, but that's a fair point. I keep wondering, who the hell are these men going to have sex with???? Isn't the fact that women are free to enjoy sexual pleasure and not be shamed for it, a good thing for both of us?? I swear I think most of these men who are onto this crap are in long-term, now sexless or nearly sexless marriages and they are just pissed as all shit. And some of them just never got much to begin with I guess.

It's crazy. Just insanity!
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I don't think health plans should pay for boners.....
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Bull fucker nuts! Maybe if you had more boners you wouldn't be such an uptight asshole. Sex is a normal and needed aspect of life and if a vascular issue is affecting my health so that I can't enjoy normal sexual activity then I BY GOD EXPECT my insurance to cover that!!!!!






Otherwise I might have to sell off all my sheep. :(
 
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