A favor... either use quotes or just put your entire answer after the material pops up. Otherwise we have to cut and paste your responses. Because the above is all that shows up for your comments.
1) As I stated... it is the MINDSET of 'I want this in the plan' that is driving up costs... everybody wants their specific stuff covered to the point that we start covering everything for everyone, whether they need it or not. So you decide to draw the line at birth control at the expense of women's health? Again, this is a red herring on your part. Who cares? We are not talking about mindsets, we are talking facts: full insurance coverage of birth control lowers health care costs period.
2) I acknowledged the fact that birth control coverage can lower health cares costs. I didn't realize your ego needed me to state that you were the one that provided the links to show it as such. But I think it's important to point out that you are willing to change your arguments midstream. Because first you objected to this because it would raise premiums for everyone, or said that's why you objected. But you've been shown that's incorrect, and now you have yet another reason you are against it.
3) Regardless of whether it lowers costs, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE A PRIVATE INSTITUTION TO COVER BIRTH CONTROL. period. Yeah we do. We have the right to mandate that insurance companies cover mammograms and other preventative care and birth control is no different.
No, we don't live in a theocracy. Which is why they cannot force you to use their insurance plans or to accept their beliefs. The point you are missing is that NEITHER CAN YOU FORCE THEM TO ACCEPT YOUR BELIEFS. Because they don't care what your view is or what you accept. We have this thing in the US called religious freedom. They cannot force their religious views on you, nor can you force your beliefs upon them. I am not forcing them to accept my beliefs. I am totally down with their choice to not use birth control. You can make this claim over and over, but it remains as stupid and untrue and frankly, childish as the first time. It's childish because it's basically "I know you are but what am I?" Privileging employers over women and over women's health, is in fact, a radical change of the relationship.
If a Catholic hospital doesn't want to cover birth control. YOU CANNOT FORCE THEM TO. You are asking the government to force a religion to adhere to something they find morally objectionable. If health insurance was the only way to get birth control... you might have a legitimate case. But no one is forcing you to work for a firm that has a plan that doesn't cover it. No one is preventing you from getting an individual plan. No one is preventing you from buying the birth control on your own. Stop trying to cover up your radicalism with this Catholic Church canard. First of all, the Catholic church is on the public teat. It is common practice for organizations on the public teat to have to abide by regulations in order to stay there. Second of all, this isn't about the Catholic CHurch: "the new compromise requires the insurer -- rather than the employer -- to provide contraceptive coverage free of charge for women employed by the entities in question."
ROFLMAO... again, if people aren't paying for something, it is not theft. No matter how many times you stomp your feet. Yes it is. If men have their basic, preventative health care covered, and women don't, then that is lowering women's compensation and it is in fact, theft.
Humiliate and shame their female employees? Seriously, you have gone off the deep end. Plans are changed and altered frequently. You pretend that companies would in mass deny birth control coverage to humiliate women. That is sheer nonsense and fear mongering. Companies in general look for ways to reduce costs. As you have shown, having the coverage reduces costs. Few corporate execs, man or woman, would cut something that would raise costs. The stupidity of pretending they would is simply fear mongering. Truly, only a man could have written this, and a clueless one drowning in his own privilege to boot. Here is your problem Sexual harassment and abuse goes on every day and women experience it and know it. We have always been dismissed as hysterical and irrational, but we have never accepted that male judgement. Rather, we have continued to fight for our rights to function as full human beings. This is why sexual harassment laws are now in place. I have more news for you SF- allowing a "pharmacist" with a two inch dick and a big grudge against women because he never gets laid to refuse a woman's birth control prescription? This is humiliating and shameful for her. This is the same exact thing. And it's not going to happen. Women don't care if you don't recognize the shame and humiliation inherent in this situation, nor the power dynamics. We said NO. That's why the Blunt Amendment didn't pass. And it's why a big kick in the balls is coming in November. Sing to me then about how your views on this trump women's.
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