You got angry the minute I said there are no genuine intellectuals on this board.
Did you think you are a genuine intellectual and you should be acknowledged as such?
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You got angry the minute I said there are no genuine intellectuals on this board.
Did you think you are a genuine intellectual and you should be acknowledged as such?
BidenPresident
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You refuse to have discussions of your ideas. Everyone tells you that.
The Standard Model is our best account of the laws governing everything except gravitation. The general theory of relativity. accounts for that. All of these equations have constants within. them—that is, terms that have to be included in the equations to. make the units come out right.
Physicist Robert Dicke pointed out in his article “Dirac’s Cosmology and Mach’s Principle” that we can arithmetically. combine these constants to give rise to dimensionless. numbers—that is, we can multiply and divide these constants in. combinations that make all the units cancel out. Numbers that. should have nothing to do with each other—things like the age. of the universe, the mass of the proton, and the gravitational. constant—seem to be intricately related when properly. multiplied and divided by each other. That is strange.
Physicist Martin Rees has argued that it seems to be the result of. the fine-tuning of the universe. If these constants were slightly. different in numerical value, the result would be a universe completely incapable of giving rise to life. Richard Swinburn, a professor, contends that the facts arising from contemporary physics show an interrelation and a sensitivity that cannot but. resurrect the teleological argument.
The contingency approach to denying design takes a different line, arguing that there is not actually anything here that needs. explaining. It contends that things just are the way they are. If that is the case, there is nothing to explain.
Elliot Sober weighs in on this question of fine-tuning arguments in philosophy of physics. His argument does not make the move of the necessity approach. We don’t need to assume anything about the ultimate form of the laws of nature. We can take them as they are. We can also grant that the universal laws could be of a different form and that the constants could be of a different value. We will allow all of this to be contingent—that is, not necessary.
If all of this could have been otherwise, but turned out to be as it is, then it seems we need an explanation. However, Sober argues that is not the case. Just because something highly improbable occurs does not mean that it was designed. Improbable things accidentally happen all the time. The key is to look at them from the proper direction.
Excerpted from course guidebook, Physics and Philosophy - Professor S. Gimbel, Gettysburg College
^^ I don't think these are the only two possible explanations.
Physicist Robert Dicke pointed out in his article “Dirac’s Cosmology and Mach’s Principle” that we can arithmetically. combine these constants to give rise to dimensionless. numbers—that is, we can multiply and divide these constants in. combinations that make all the units cancel out. Numbers that. should have nothing to do with each other—things like the age. of the universe, the mass of the proton, and the gravitational. constant—seem to be intricately related when properly. multiplied and divided by each other. That is strange.
Physicist Martin Rees has argued that it seems to be the result of. the fine-tuning of the universe. If these constants were slightly. different in numerical value, the result would be a universe completely incapable of giving rise to life. Richard Swinburn, a professor, contends that the facts arising from contemporary physics show an interrelation and a sensitivity that cannot but. resurrect the teleological argument.
The contingency approach to denying design takes a different line, arguing that there is not actually anything here that needs. explaining. It contends that things just are the way they are. If that is the case, there is nothing to explain.
Elliot Sober weighs in on this question of fine-tuning arguments in philosophy of physics. His argument does not make the move of the necessity approach. We don’t need to assume anything about the ultimate form of the laws of nature. We can take them as they are. We can also grant that the universal laws could be of a different form and that the constants could be of a different value. We will allow all of this to be contingent—that is, not necessary.
If all of this could have been otherwise, but turned out to be as it is, then it seems we need an explanation. However, Sober argues that is not the case. Just because something highly improbable occurs does not mean that it was designed. Improbable things accidentally happen all the time. The key is to look at them from the proper direction.
Excerpted from course guidebook, Physics and Philosophy - Professor S. Gimbel, Gettysburg College
^^ I don't think these are the only two possible explanations.
That's only what the haters say.
You don't discuss, you hurl insults and monosyllabic grunts.
I'll make a mental note to never apologize to you for anything, crack whore.
You seem to read a lot of my posts and pay a lot of attention to my threads.
You are barely on my radar, and I'd be surprised if I've ever read more than two dozen of your posts.
So you obviously find me interesting in a way I don't find you.
BidenPresident
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Your choice to be ignored.
Enjoy your fantasies.
Most of my threads have scores of responses and hundreds or thousands of reads.
Saint Guinefort
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When people apologize to you you usually just piss on them anyway.
I love how weak your ego is that you have to interpret all interactions as being someone interested in you.
Does it get you off to tell people you don't read their stuff as you respond to it?
You are self-absorbed. Might explain why you are so bad at all the intellectual pursuits you undertake.
I find you interesting in a way a person finds a clown interesting
Saint Guinefort
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You mean the people who see through your bullshit? I mean, it's obvious DOc Dutch laps up your spew like it's going out of style, but that's about it.
For someone who bumped this thread to complain how it is pointless navel gazing, you sure have made it a habit to repeatedly revisit this thread and read everything posted
You would barely be on my radar if you weren't constantly composing posts to me and complaining about me.
Saint Guinefort
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Don't forget to tell him how many books you own and how long you've been on this forum! Since 2006? I forget. But gosh it is something to be "proud" of like you are.
Saint Guinefort
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For someone who bumped this thread to complain how it is pointless navel gazing, you sure have made it a habit to repeatedly revisit this thread and read everything posted
You're hilarious to watch! I love seeing you get bent as people point out your bullshit.
You sure love my threads
No you are not relentlessly visiting them for entertainment
You are being driven by anger and resentment -->
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?207983-0-0073&p=5814899#post5814899
Why don't you stop posting on here!
That would be WONDERFUL!
You should just fuck right off with your fake-ass pseudo intellectual schtick. You are a fuckin' loser who thinks everyone is obsessed with him. You really are the one who needs help.
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Saint Guinefort
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You would know about "rage". For all your lies about how you don't feel those negative feelings anymore like hate...you sure do hate me. You HATE with a capital "H". You are one of the most hatefilled people I've met in a while.
You are being driven by anger and resentment
Why don't you stop posting on here!
That would be WONDERFUL!
You should just fuck right off with your fake-ass pseudo intellectual schtick. You are a fuckin' loser who thinks everyone is obsessed with him. You really are the one who needs help.
Saint Guinefort
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See what I mean? You aren't following me around and lurking me for entertainment.
You are being driven by anger and resentment
You know if you jack up the font of anyone's posts they look unhinged. And given your natural dishonesty I can see how you want to make others look bad. It helps cover over your own failings and hypocrisy.
You're welcome to jack up the font on my posts, the problem is that my lexicon and word choice doesn't look as hilariously unhinged as yours do.
Why don't you stop posting on here!
That would be WONDERFUL!
You should just fuck right off with your fake-ass pseudo intellectual schtick. You are a fuckin' loser who thinks everyone is obsessed with him. You really are the one who needs help.
The other option out there that these guys don't mention is that one day we may discover some underlying principle of physics that shows the values of the constants have to be what they are, and they cannot be anything else. But that's a big if.