1984 and school walkouts

kudzu said:
i would suspect the only other book he read since HS was Ayn Rand.. 1984 is about Bif Brother and the death of individuality. The Rev is trying to pass himself off as an intellect...
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as an intellect? I dumbed down that op just for you! ;)



You haven't addressed it at all and you are suggesting others are not the intellectual?
 
Evmetro said:
This is a winner! Notice how every lefty is acting like a cat that is being pushed into a toilet? They cannot answer your post, all they can do is spin that big lefty wheel of fortune to see what random lefty talking point to post instead.
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I no longer expect answers from people, it's sad actually.
 
kudzu said:
The kids have a right to civic participation.. In fact, they should be encouraged.
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Encouraged, yes, astro-trurffed, peer-pressured, no.


note the lack of coverage on the pro-2nd students, or did you think all these kids thought as a monolith? (was that last word to big for you?)
 
evince said:
you mean like rino hunters in the republican party


gay people need to CHOOSE to pretend to be hetro?

and not be themselves for real

women have to pretend to be the feminine ideal concocted back decades ago?

black and brown people must know their place concocted by old white men centuries ago?



how republican


how 1984
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If you are trying to suggest I am any of those things, you need to have your meds adjusted.


I fully support the right of married gay couples to protect their weed farms with an ar-15. and have held that positiong before your party accepted gay marriage.
 
floridafan said:
Absolutely, positively NOT. Read the Supreme Court decisions on the matter, if you can.
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Heller pretty much said that widely used and popular weapons are protected, so what decisions might you be referring to? the circuit ones that obviously are ignoring the USSC? that will eventually be remedied
 
evince said:
dear fucking idiot,


the government position is they just be satisfied with getting dead remember


these kids want to CHANGE THOSE LAWS


fuck you very much
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meds, you need them adjusted my friend.



No, the prevailing position of the left wing of this government, and the media, et al is guns bad, despite statistics and reality, these kids with approval of the school are pretending to stand up when all they are doing is parroting the governments desires.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Heller pretty much said that widely used and popular weapons are protected, so what decisions might you be referring to? the circuit ones that obviously are ignoring the USSC? that will eventually be remedied
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Here is just one example:

ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Maryland's ban on 45 kinds of assault weapons and its 10-round limit on gun magazines were upheld Tuesday by a federal appeals court in a decision that met with a strongly worded dissent.

In a 10-4 ruling, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, said the guns banned under Maryland's law aren't protected by the Second Amendment.

"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote for the court, adding that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller explicitly excluded such coverage.

Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who led the push for the law in 2013 as a state senator, said it's "unthinkable that these weapons of war, weapons that caused the carnage in Newtown and in other communities across the country, would be protected by the Second Amendment."
 
countryboy said:
These kids will continue to be slaughtered because you and your ilk refuse to protect them. Your only interests are using them as political pawns, and exploiting their bullet ridden corpses for political gain. You wanna see evil, look in the mirror.
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Actually, kids are not "Getting slaughtered". These horrific acts are still extremely rare.
 
floridafan said:
Here is just one example:

ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Maryland's ban on 45 kinds of assault weapons and its 10-round limit on gun magazines were upheld Tuesday by a federal appeals court in a decision that met with a strongly worded dissent.

In a 10-4 ruling, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, said the guns banned under Maryland's law aren't protected by the Second Amendment.

"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote for the court, adding that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller explicitly excluded such coverage.

Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who led the push for the law in 2013 as a state senator, said it's "unthinkable that these weapons of war, weapons that caused the carnage in Newtown and in other communities across the country, would be protected by the Second Amendment."
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weapons of war were not defined in heller, so the 4th circuit basically negated half of heller in the 4th circuit area. again, heller specifically protected widely held, used, and owned weapons, of which the AR15 is most definitely in that category. it will be remedied.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
weapons of war were not defined in heller, so the 4th circuit basically negated half of heller in the 4th circuit area. again, heller specifically protected widely held, used, and owned weapons, of which the AR15 is most definitely in that category. it will be remedied.
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Here is your US Supreme Court decision, rendered just last November:

Associated Press

The Supreme Court turned away an appeal from Maryland gun owners who challenged the state's ban on assault weapons, which were used in recent mass shootings in a south Texas church and at an outdoor concert in Las Vegas.

The justices left in place a federal appeals court ruling that upheld the Maryland law that does not permit the sale of a range of semi-automatic weapons and large-capacity magazines.

In the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling earlier this year, Judge Robert King wrote “we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war.”

Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who pushed for the legislation as a state senator in 2013, said he hoped the appeals court's ruling and the high court's decision not to review it would encourage other states to adopt similar protections.
 
floridafan said:
Absolutely, positively NOT. Read the Supreme Court decisions on the matter, if you can.
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I literally linked to it.


The gist is that the short barreled shotgun was not a weapon in common use in the military and therefore not protected by the 2nd.


The most common use weapon in the military today is the m-16 which the ar platform is based on.


I have read the descision, I linked to it in the post above. not sure why you didn't actually read it.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Heller pretty much said that widely used and popular weapons are protected, so what decisions might you be referring to? the circuit ones that obviously are ignoring the USSC? that will eventually be remedied
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Heller was the one stating the individual right, miller was the common use I believe.
 
floridafan said:
Here is your US Supreme Court decision, rendered just last November:

Associated Press

The Supreme Court turned away an appeal from Maryland gun owners who challenged the state's ban on assault weapons, which were used in recent mass shootings in a south Texas church and at an outdoor concert in Las Vegas.

The justices left in place a federal appeals court ruling that upheld the Maryland law that does not permit the sale of a range of semi-automatic weapons and large-capacity magazines.

In the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling earlier this year, Judge Robert King wrote “we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war.”

Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who pushed for the legislation as a state senator in 2013, said he hoped the appeals court's ruling and the high court's decision not to review it would encourage other states to adopt similar protections.
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not hearing a case is not the same as endorsing that decision and you should know this.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I literally linked to it.


The gist is that the short barreled shotgun was not a weapon in common use in the military and therefore not protected by the 2nd.




The most common use weapon in the military today is the m-16 which the ar platform is based on.


I have read the descision, I linked to it in the post above. not sure why you didn't actually read it.
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I just posted the SC decision on assault weapons. Read it.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Heller was the one stating the individual right, miller was the common use I believe.
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miller is commonly misinterpreted as a common right, but the part that is always glossed over is that the only decision miller made was that it couldn't determine if a short barreled shotgun had 2nd Amendment protections because nobody on millers side showed up to offer evidence.
 
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