2nd Amendment Conversation from the Defund thread

Nordberg said:
Show me in the constitution where it defines which weapons a person can have.
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It doesn't, which means ANY KIND OF WEAPON is legal. No government has authority to infringe on the right of self defense at all.
Nordberg said:
Does that include anti-tank weapons, hand grenades and bombs
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Yes. All are legal weapons.
Nordberg said:
The founders were talking about flintlocks.
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The word 'flintlock' does not appear in the Constitution. You don't get to speak for the dead.
Nordberg said:
They had no ability to predict what weapons would come along.
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Irrelevant. You don't get to speak for the dead.
Nordberg said:
They did add the ability to amend mistakes.
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What mistake?
Nordberg said:
Weapons in the 2nd is a glaring example.
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No. The right of self defense is inherent. The government does not have the authority to infringe upon it in any way.
 
danielpalos said:
Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about economics or being legal to the law external to border threads.
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Everybody but the nobodies on the Left do. It's the radical Left and Left that are economic retards. Question for you daniel. Do you think that Socialism is a good economic system? If so, why?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Everybody but the nobodies on the Left do. It's the radical Left and Left that are economic retards. Question for you daniel. Do you think that Socialism is a good economic system? If so, why?
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How droll. Right-wingers seem like nothing but parrots when spouting right-wing propaganda they never considered very deeply or thought about very well prior to becoming engaged in politics.

Government is social-ism. You can't have Government without social(ism). Why do you believe we Elect our representatives to Government and delegate social power to them?
 
Into the Night said:
It doesn't, which means ANY KIND OF WEAPON is legal. No government has authority to infringe on the right of self defense at all.

Yes. All are legal weapons.

The word 'flintlock' does not appear in the Constitution. You don't get to speak for the dead.

Irrelevant. You don't get to speak for the dead.

What mistake?

No. The right of self defense is inherent. The government does not have the authority to infringe upon it in any way.
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Self-defense? That is not what guns are used for. You can have a gun in your pocket and a person can shoot you. He gets a new gun from it.
In America, we have school shootings and school shooting drills. Other countries do not have that. Can you guess why? We have kids dying because of the 2nd. https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2022/kids-shot-killed-2021-gun-violence-record/ When Americans move abroad, one of the things they say they do not miss is the gun carnage. The right wing,NRA lies about the 2nd is a big cause.
 
danielpalos said:
How droll. Right-wingers seem like nothing but parrots when spouting right-wing propaganda they never considered very deeply or thought about very well prior to becoming engaged in politics.

Government is social-ism. You can't have Government without social(ism). Why do you believe we Elect our representatives to Government and delegate social power to them?
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Bullshit. Government is a ruling body. If government simply rules, it has no socialist role in society.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Bullshit. Government is a ruling body. If government simply rules, it has no socialist role in society.
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Isn't right-wing fantasy wonderful? This is the argument in the real world: Government is social-ism. You can't have Government without social(ism). Why do you believe we Elect our representatives to Government and delegate social power to them?
 
danielpalos said:
How droll. Right-wingers seem like nothing but parrots when spouting right-wing propaganda they never considered very deeply or thought about very well prior to becoming engaged in politics.
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Omniscience fallacy. You can't speak for anyone's thoughts but your own.
danielpalos said:
Government is social-ism.
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Socialism is not a form of government.
danielpalos said:
You can't have Government without social(ism).
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Socialism is not a form of government.
danielpalos said:
Why do you believe we Elect our representatives to Government and delegate social power to them?
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We don't. Socialism is an economic system. It comes in three major forms: communism, fascism, and slavery.

Answer the question put to you. Do you think socialism is a good economic system? If so, why?
 
Is right-wing fantasy that wonderful or are right-wingers just plain liars every time they get the chance? Vote Blue not Red (every time it comes up)!

Why do you believe we Elect our representatives to Government and delegate social power to them?
 
Nordberg said:
Self-defense? That is not what guns are used for.
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Yes it is.
Nordberg said:
You can have a gun in your pocket and a person can shoot you. He gets a new gun from it.
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You failed to defend yourself.
Nordberg said:
In America, we have school shootings and school shooting drills. Other countries do not have that. Can you guess why?
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They do.
Nordberg said:
We have kids dying because of the 2nd.
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We have kids dying from football games, cars, riding bikes, various diseases, abusive parents, criminal activity, playing with matches, playing with electrical outlets, exposure, hunger, drug use, and many other causes.
No, you do not get to single out guns here.

The right of self defense is inherent. You are discarding the Constitution.

Nordberg said:
When Americans move abroad, one of the things they say they do not miss is the gun carnage.
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What gun carnage? Despite your little mind believing everything Democrat press is trying to tell you, the States enjoy a homicide rate that is quite low.
Nordberg said:
The right wing,NRA lies about the 2nd is a big cause.
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It isn't a cause of anything. The right of self defense is inherent. It does not come from a piece of paper.
 
danielpalos said:
Isn't right-wing fantasy wonderful? This is the argument in the real world: Government is social-ism. You can't have Government without social(ism). Why do you believe we Elect our representatives to Government and delegate social power to them?
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Buzzword fallacy. You don't know what 'real' even means.

Socialism is not a form of government.
It is an economic system. You are evading. Answer the question put to you.
 
Into the Night said:
Buzzword fallacy. You don't know what 'real' even means.

Socialism is not a form of government.
It is an economic system. You are evading. Answer the question put to you.
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Socialism is a populist economic and POLITICAL system based on public ownership of the means of production. It does not exist on the planet. Stop doing that. You speak axiomatically on things you are absolutely wrong about. You have serious problems.
 
Nordberg said:
Socialism is a populist economic and POLITICAL system based on public ownership of the means of production. It does not exist on the planet. Stop doing that. You speak axiomatically on things you are absolutely wrong about. You have serious problems.
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Yet you support socialism...
 
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