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with toby missing in action, we hereby nominate you as the most moronic poster on jpp.com


That statistics "debate" was downright moronic. My IQ dropped ten points just listening to you.



You started out at 95 now you are down to 85...still 'Dull Normal' well within your given range!
 
Uh huh...

Sorry, I have a policy of not providing any form of personal info to strangers. There are perhaps a dozen people globally who can do what I do at my level, my work is readily identified back to me by field and specialty, so posting my works would be similar to posting my name.

Since your theory is in contradiction to longstanding (and proven science) it is de facto 'disproven' until such time as you prove it. If it's such a good idea, then I am sure you can get a grant to study it. Even then, a single empirical measure is hardly going to contravene what is known true; however, if you are foolhardy enough to undertake that Sysyphusian task, feel free.


Well just post someone elses discipline in the subject of debate that is similar to yours...then I can see where you are comming from!
 
all basic probability and statistics textbooks contradict you...

many of them are available for purchase online.

you would be well served by a regimen of study.
 
Yes I have read and am familiar with the norm presented by Stats...I like being the 'Devils Advocate' and throwing out new theories...until someone actually tries my theory and proves me wrong I will stand my ground!

Enough already! I not only have worked as a statistician -- did actuarial work for 3 1/2 years, but also have taken three undergraduate and one graduate course in stats and taught statistics at the undergraduate junior and senior level.

I didn't chime in on this thread earlier because everyone else seems to have handled the topic perfectly well. Your "theory" is nothing more than a weak, unsubstantiated hypothesis and it's so full of holes that it's nearly impossible to address. Everyone else is right: there is no rule, nor has there ever been, that a "sample" has to be 10% of the population. The sample should be random, defined such that each member of the population has an equal chance of being chosen for the sample group. The validity of the sample is determined by the variability represented by the data in that sample and the standard deviation, and standard error, calculated based on the sample size itself, become important elements in determining the validity of the sample data. Inherent problems in any survey data aside, a sample size of 1000 is perfectly legitimate.

Moreover, it is scientifically improper to even attempt to "prove" a negative. If you were acquainted with the scientific method at all, you'd know that we do not express results in terms of "proof", but in terms of data supporting or failing to support an hypothesis. A theory is something that is based on an array of individual hypotheses that are soundly supported by observations. The rules of acceptability are stringent.
 
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Sure am glad...

Enough already! I not only have worked as a statitistian -- did actuarial work for 3 1/2 years, but also have taken three undergraduate and one graduate course in stats and taught statistics at the undergraduate junior and senior level.

I didn't chime in on this thread earlier because everyone else seems to have handled the topic perfectly well. Your "theory" is nothing more than a weak, unsubstantiated hypothesis and it's so full of holes that it's nearly impossible to address. Everyone else is right: there is no rule, nor has there ever been, that a "sample" has to be 10% of the population. The sample should be random, defined such that each member of the population has an equal chance of being chosen for the sample group. The validity of the sample is determined by the variability represented by the data in that sample and the standard deviation, and standard error, calculated based on the sample size itself, become important elements in determining the validity of the sample data. Inherent problems in any survey data aside, a sample size of 1000 is perfectly legitimate.

Moreover, it is scientifically improper to even attempt to "prove" a negative. If you were acquainted with the scientific method at all, you'd know that we do not express results in terms of "proof", but in terms of data supporting or failing to support an hypothesis. A theory is something that is based on an array of individual hypotheses that are soundly supported by observations. The rules of acceptability are stringent.



that I did not have a professor like you while attending college when it was really a school to enhance ones ability to think and challenge others theories...and glad my kids don't have a shallow teacher of your ilk! Find another day job before you kill our future for our kids!
 
that I did not have a professor like you while attending college when it was really a school to enhance ones ability to think and challenge others theories...and glad my kids don't have a shallow teacher of your ilk! Find another day job before you kill our future for our kids!

You're a troll.
 
are you going to start challenging Newton's Laws next?

You have already "challenged" the established laws of probability and statistics. Newton seems like a great target for your next assault on reality.
 
Nah....

are you going to start challenging Newton's Laws next?

You have already "challenged" the established laws of probability and statistics. Newton seems like a great target for your next assault on reality.


Way too boring...apple pie and all...maybe Quantim Physics...then I could try to get a 'black hole' to suck you and yours up!
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whatever.... as long as you understand that you are just babbling and that most folks are laughing at you.... have at it.
 
Yah you certainly....

whatever.... as long as you understand that you are just babbling and that most folks are laughing at you.... have at it.


know alot about babbling...fullpolitics et al...lotsa four letter words expressed as intelligent conversation...at least I can get a laugh or two even and albeit from pervs!:rolleyes:
 
do yourself a favor and don't go there..... we have an adversarial relationship to begin with....don't totally poison it.
 
Go where???

do yourself a favor and don't go there..... we have an adversarial relationship to begin with....don't totally poison it.

Not to worry I would never register with your other board...I just enter as a guest from time to time for a good laugh...and ammo! Y'all are weird and so full of yourselves..."Birds of a feather do flock together":321:
 
the "don't go there" part did not mean fullpolitics.com...it had to do with your little ending comment....don't go THERE. comprendez-vous?
 
Oh I see...

the "don't go there" part did not mean fullpolitics.com...it had to do with your little ending comment....don't go THERE. comprendez-vous?


as usual your head in the gutter...you were referring to the pervs ending!

well uneducated bafoon...there are two definitions for pervert...although I was using the shortened version of perverse: turned away from what is right or good;corrupt,obstinate in opposing what is reasonable or accepted..

then there is (1)pervert:to lead astray corrupt the young;to divert to a wrong purpose;misapply,deprave,debase
(2) pervert:one that is perverted;esp:a person given to sexual perversion(I see with your mentality you chose this one)
 
when you said

at least I can get a laugh or two even and albeit from pervs


clearly you were not using perv as a verb...... which the first definition you list is.... the second is a noun.

I swear...getting in a battle of wits with you is like shooting an unarmed man.
 
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