5 ways to tell if you're a Libertarian

1. The left and the right hate you

Perhaps one of the most frustrating things about being a libertarian is how both the left and the right seem to hate you. The left can’t stand your economic views and willingness to stand up for people’s civil rights, regardless of who those people are, and the right can’t stand, well, your willingness to stand up for people’s civil rights. You constantly feel like a liberal around conservatives and a conservative around liberals. Your support for the Second Amendment and the rights of neo-Nazis to speak freely is sure to get you labeled a “white supremacist” by one side, while your support for the LGBT community, marijuana legalization, and limited government makes you a dirty hippy to the other.

2. People constantly confuse you with your anarchist friends

We’ve all been accused of being completely against government at least once, and while it’s true that most libertarians are for limited government in order to maximize freedom, we’re not typically for the total abolishment of government — that’s an anarchist thing. Libertarians generally believe in maintaining a small government primarily for judicial purposes, while anarchists believe government should be completely eradicated, placing their faith in private police or militia groups instead. But no matter how many times you explain this to acquaintances, most of them will probably ignore you.

3. You roll your eyes whenever someone trashes the free market

Let’s be honest — this one happens all the time. Whether it’s in casual conversation or after you tell someone you’re a libertarian, we’ve all experienced the mind-numbing rants against the free market. “The free market isn’t effective!” “Capitalism has killed more people than socialism!” “But, what abut income inequality?” “You don’t care about the poor!” Are you even a libertarian if you don’t spend at least half your time explaining how capitalism works to people who think using the state to take all your stuff is a moral imperative?

4. The NAP is practically sacred to you

The non-aggression principle, or NAP, is a staple of libertarian thought that tends to find more favor among pacifist liberals than it does hawkish conservatives. Libertarians are decidedly against intervening in other countries, against war, and against fear-mongering war propaganda, especially when it’s coming from the president. It’ll be a cold day in hell before anyone manages to convince you that U.S. intervention in Afghanistan is the correct course of action, and you wish diplomacy could be used more often as a means of settling international disputes. Just how many billions of tax dollars has the government spent on killing innocent people in the name of “freedom,” anyway?

5. You think taxation is theft

Speaking of tax dollars being spent on killing innocent people, you’re probably a libertarian if you believe taxation is theft. When the government is taking more and more of your hard-earned money and threatening to throw you in prison if you don’t comply, how can taxation be considered anything else? While some people say you’re bound to pay taxes as part of a social contract, libertarians reject this idea, believing that what you personally work for is yours to keep.

https://thelibertyreview.com/5-ways-to-tell-if-youre-a-libertarian/
 
I don't "hate" libertarians, just believe that very few of them are actually libertarians, but rather, borrow parts of libertarianism they like and mix it with their own political leanings.

I don't find Rand Paul to be a libertarian, more so an opportunist employing libertarian ideas to promote himself, he saw how it took his father, who was more true to libertarianism, from being an obscure Congressman to the national spotlight
 
My issue with libertarians is their snootiness and superiority of their view.

For instance I am in alignment with every topic on here except the legalization of drugs. But that isn’t good enough for you

Now I have no desire to call myself a libertarian. Labels bore me
 
My issue with libertarians is their snootiness and superiority of their view.

For instance I am in alignment with every topic on here except the legalization of drugs. But that isn’t good enough for you

Now I have no desire to call myself a libertarian. Labels bore me

at what level of governance do you want to overrule the consent of the governed?

Do you want a national policy on drugs? And if so, why stop at our borders? The constitution doesn't allow you this power, but you took it anyway. Why not wage a world war until everyone falls under your view point of the drug war?
 
My issue with libertarians is their snootiness and superiority of their view.

For instance I am in alignment with every topic on here except the legalization of drugs. But that isn’t good enough for you

Now I have no desire to call myself a libertarian. Labels bore me

i'm curious then, if your libertarian views are accepting of people being free to do what they want with their own bodies, like drink too much, how that squares with your inability to understand about legalizing SOME drugs?
 
I don't "hate" libertarians, just believe that very few of them are actually libertarians, but rather, borrow parts of libertarianism they like and mix it with their own political leanings.
That and I've found that many on the left consider libertarians as republicans who want to legalize drugs and many on the right call themselves libertarians when they haven't a clue what libertarianism actually is.
 
My issue with libertarians is their snootiness and superiority of their view.

For instance I am in alignment with every topic on here except the legalization of drugs. But that isn’t good enough for you

Now I have no desire to call myself a libertarian. Labels bore me

So if you are "alignment with every topic" that means you support the "non-aggression principle?"

I'd bet you didn't hold that view when the President recently bombed Syria
 
That and I've found that many on the left consider libertarians as republicans who want to legalize drugs and many on the right call themselves libertarians when they haven't a clue what libertarianism actually is.

As I noted, for most, it is largely a cafeteria ideology, pick and choose what you want to believe depending on individual circumstances and current events
 
That and I've found that many on the left consider libertarians as republicans who want to legalize drugs and many on the right call themselves libertarians when they haven't a clue what libertarianism actually is.

I think most ppl are like myself and don't fall squarely into any box labeled (L), (R), or (D). I agree with some (L) stances, particularly things that pertain to personal liberty. But most of what they espouse is unworkable in a civilized society, IMO.
 
1. The left and the right hate you

Perhaps one of the most frustrating things about being a libertarian is how both the left and the right seem to hate you. The left can’t stand your economic views and willingness to stand up for people’s civil rights, regardless of who those people are, and the right can’t stand, well, your willingness to stand up for people’s civil rights. You constantly feel like a liberal around conservatives and a conservative around liberals. Your support for the Second Amendment and the rights of neo-Nazis to speak freely is sure to get you labeled a “white supremacist” by one side, while your support for the LGBT community, marijuana legalization, and limited government makes you a dirty hippy to the other.

2. People constantly confuse you with your anarchist friends

We’ve all been accused of being completely against government at least once, and while it’s true that most libertarians are for limited government in order to maximize freedom, we’re not typically for the total abolishment of government — that’s an anarchist thing. Libertarians generally believe in maintaining a small government primarily for judicial purposes, while anarchists believe government should be completely eradicated, placing their faith in private police or militia groups instead. But no matter how many times you explain this to acquaintances, most of them will probably ignore you.

3. You roll your eyes whenever someone trashes the free market

Let’s be honest — this one happens all the time. Whether it’s in casual conversation or after you tell someone you’re a libertarian, we’ve all experienced the mind-numbing rants against the free market. “The free market isn’t effective!” “Capitalism has killed more people than socialism!” “But, what abut income inequality?” “You don’t care about the poor!” Are you even a libertarian if you don’t spend at least half your time explaining how capitalism works to people who think using the state to take all your stuff is a moral imperative?

4. The NAP is practically sacred to you

The non-aggression principle, or NAP, is a staple of libertarian thought that tends to find more favor among pacifist liberals than it does hawkish conservatives. Libertarians are decidedly against intervening in other countries, against war, and against fear-mongering war propaganda, especially when it’s coming from the president. It’ll be a cold day in hell before anyone manages to convince you that U.S. intervention in Afghanistan is the correct course of action, and you wish diplomacy could be used more often as a means of settling international disputes. Just how many billions of tax dollars has the government spent on killing innocent people in the name of “freedom,” anyway?

5. You think taxation is theft

Speaking of tax dollars being spent on killing innocent people, you’re probably a libertarian if you believe taxation is theft. When the government is taking more and more of your hard-earned money and threatening to throw you in prison if you don’t comply, how can taxation be considered anything else? While some people say you’re bound to pay taxes as part of a social contract, libertarians reject this idea, believing that what you personally work for is yours to keep.

https://thelibertyreview.com/5-ways-to-tell-if-youre-a-libertarian/

One can easily be a libertarian and understand that the free market is a myth and exists only on chalkboards and PP presentations and that taxation isn't theft.
 
How to spot a libertarian. Well he is 18 years old. and thinks Ayn Rand was a great writer. Most people outgrow it. Rand Paul never did, nor did Greenspan. They both hurt the country with it.
 
How to spot a libertarian. Well he is 18 years old. and thinks Ayn Rand was a great writer. Most people outgrow it. Rand Paul never did, nor did Greenspan. They both hurt the country with it.

:eyeroll:

the typical ravings of an insane liberal who hasn't yet faced the reality of the world.
 
1. The left and the right hate you

Perhaps one of the most frustrating things about being a libertarian is how both the left and the right seem to hate you. The left can’t stand your economic views and willingness to stand up for people’s civil rights, regardless of who those people are, and the right can’t stand, well, your willingness to stand up for people’s civil rights. You constantly feel like a liberal around conservatives and a conservative around liberals. Your support for the Second Amendment and the rights of neo-Nazis to speak freely is sure to get you labeled a “white supremacist” by one side, while your support for the LGBT community, marijuana legalization, and limited government makes you a dirty hippy to the other.

2. People constantly confuse you with your anarchist friends

We’ve all been accused of being completely against government at least once, and while it’s true that most libertarians are for limited government in order to maximize freedom, we’re not typically for the total abolishment of government — that’s an anarchist thing. Libertarians generally believe in maintaining a small government primarily for judicial purposes, while anarchists believe government should be completely eradicated, placing their faith in private police or militia groups instead. But no matter how many times you explain this to acquaintances, most of them will probably ignore you.

3. You roll your eyes whenever someone trashes the free market

Let’s be honest — this one happens all the time. Whether it’s in casual conversation or after you tell someone you’re a libertarian, we’ve all experienced the mind-numbing rants against the free market. “The free market isn’t effective!” “Capitalism has killed more people than socialism!” “But, what abut income inequality?” “You don’t care about the poor!” Are you even a libertarian if you don’t spend at least half your time explaining how capitalism works to people who think using the state to take all your stuff is a moral imperative?

4. The NAP is practically sacred to you

The non-aggression principle, or NAP, is a staple of libertarian thought that tends to find more favor among pacifist liberals than it does hawkish conservatives. Libertarians are decidedly against intervening in other countries, against war, and against fear-mongering war propaganda, especially when it’s coming from the president. It’ll be a cold day in hell before anyone manages to convince you that U.S. intervention in Afghanistan is the correct course of action, and you wish diplomacy could be used more often as a means of settling international disputes. Just how many billions of tax dollars has the government spent on killing innocent people in the name of “freedom,” anyway?

5. You think taxation is theft

Speaking of tax dollars being spent on killing innocent people, you’re probably a libertarian if you believe taxation is theft. When the government is taking more and more of your hard-earned money and threatening to throw you in prison if you don’t comply, how can taxation be considered anything else? While some people say you’re bound to pay taxes as part of a social contract, libertarians reject this idea, believing that what you personally work for is yours to keep.

https://thelibertyreview.com/5-ways-to-tell-if-youre-a-libertarian/

You forgot #6.
That's when you make asinine statements and then when you're challenged on them, you turn tail and run.
 
Someone back on Amazon called me bull moose. Took me awhile to understand what they meant. My political views do bounce around enough.
 
at what level of governance do you want to overrule the consent of the governed?

Do you want a national policy on drugs? And if so, why stop at our borders? The constitution doesn't allow you this power, but you took it anyway. Why not wage a world war until everyone falls under your view point of the drug war?

You will have to clarify your first question

No I do not support a national policy on drugs

That being said true libertarians SHOULD have zero problem with States crafting drug policy.

I will clarify further. While I am not fully in favor of legalizing drugs it is not an issue I get all lathered up about.
 
i'm curious then, if your libertarian views are accepting of people being free to do what they want with their own bodies, like drink too much, how that squares with your inability to understand about legalizing SOME drugs?

I reject your premise. We have been down this road before

I am not interested in debating drug policy with you. Been there done that. It is pointless. You believe everyone should agree with you and I am not in the mood
 
As far as I can understand it, American libertarians believe in capitalism but hate the capitalist state, so - perhaps confusedly - they are keen to destroy capitalism, which is a good plan. Currently, in the allegedly socialist (to American weirdoes) UK vast number are going to work when badly ill, and not taking their annual holidays, because they are desperate to keep their ill-paid jobs. So much for capitalist 'freedom', eh?
 
So if you are "alignment with every topic" that means you support the "non-aggression principle?"

I'd bet you didn't hold that view when the President recently bombed Syria

Awwwww how cute. You think you stumbled on some sort of “gotcha” don’t you? Well how fucking embarrassing for you.

1) Trump has no authority to do so. Bombing another country is an act of war. Congress needs to declare war.

2) Assad could not have used chemical weapons in his people because Obama and John Kerry had an agreement which eliminated 100% of Assad’s chemical weapons and Obama/Kerry are never wrong

3) Politically he opens himself up to accusations of wagging the dog

4) Even if Assad did gas his people, who cares? It isn’t our business. Wee need to stop meddling around the Middle East

Bad decision President Trump. You let the neocon war hawks get to you

What is even more embarrassing for you is you sucked Unka into your foolishness

This is what happens when you assume. You make an ass out of YOU.
 
As far as I can understand it, American libertarians believe in capitalism but hate the capitalist state, so - perhaps confusedly - they are keen to destroy capitalism, which is a good plan. Currently, in the allegedly socialist (to American weirdoes) UK vast number are going to work when badly ill, and not taking their annual holidays, because they are desperate to keep their ill-paid jobs. So much for capitalist 'freedom', eh?

you do not understand Libertarianism
 
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