I agree with you on lots of things, Unk. But on this item...you are dead wrong.
51st state - Washington DC
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I agree with you on lots of things, Unk. But on this item...you are dead wrong.
Land should not have the power of the vote. People should have the power of the vote.
I would not recommend basing your life on the mediocre novel Atlas Shrugged
The Australian federal capital district of Canberra, and Brazil's federal district of Brasilia both receive full representation in their parliament and Congress, respectively
I believe the United States might be the only western democracy on the planet which does not give representation to citizens living in the nation's capital district.
Dutch Uncle
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On California or DC?
The only reason the Democrats want to make DC a state is to add two more Democratic Senators to the Senate. Sure, it'll work out that way initially, but because of that power involved, that would incentivize those with money to start moving into DC until it's a concentrated state of Big Money Republicans with huge mansions and no ghettoes.
Democrats are famous for building roads to Hell with good intentions. Consider the social dynamics involved in what you suggest.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. Make them citizens of Maryland. Easy-Peasy.
Actually it's not so easy peasy cuz that would short the Democrats to senators
Dutch Uncle
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Thanks for confirming that this isn't about "taxation without representation" but, like the Democrat plan to stack the Court, it's an attempt to stack the Senate with two more Democratic Party Senators.
My guess is that wouldn't last more than 2-3 elections before it'd flip to Republicans. Money talks, bullshit walks and it's not the first time Democrats fell into a trap.
Like I said. Either way .... we win. We come along for the ride and profit as much as anyone else if your way works, ...or....if the whole thing totally crashes and burns with D's in complete and total control then we are rid of you because you will literally not be able to push the blame off on anyone but yourself and your chosen leaders.
Throw in Puerto Rico too, and the Democrats are looking at potentially 4 new Senators.
They don’t want to be part of Maryland, make them a state, easy peasy
So?
Elections have consequences, don't they?
What makes you think Washington DC, where 45% of the population is black, would flip to Republicans at any time or point?
So what was one of those times?
that makes no sense, if you did that, the states these parts of the city are in should go to that state.
this is the ultimate in "gerrymandering"
Why? DC isn't Maryland. It's its own thing. So what are you talking about?
Also, per the Constitution, changing existing borders on states requires 2/3 support in Congress and the House, plus a majority of the vote of MD and DC.
It ain't happening that way.
Statehood only requires a majority vote in the Senate and House if you're not changing the borders of existing states, and the DC Statehood bill has already passed the House.
I bet that the Democrats include DC and PR statehood in a new Voting Rights Act.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Why? Why make a city a state? Think of all the structures of government they'd have to tax and build? What is their industry? They'd quickly become the poorest state in the Union followed by becoming the richest state as Republicans and Corporate Lobbyists take over.
In 20 years, Washington DC would become the Whitest State in the Union. Whiter than North Dakota and a helluvva lot richer.
you are one dumb mother fucker.
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VA and MD ceded land for it's creation. just give it back.
gerrymandering sucks, there is no logical sense to take a tiny city, cut out a zone for a federal zone and make it a state.
Washington DC is its own district. It isn't a part of Maryland or Virginia.
No it isn't. Republicans did the same thing over 120 years ago.
it makes total sense
The State of Nevada has about 50% of it's territory administered by the federal government.
The District of Columbia could cede the Mall, Capitol Hill, the White House, and associated infrastructure to the federal government to operate as a federal district. There is no pressing reason that DC communities like Georgetown, Adams Morgan, and Anacostia need to be in a federal district.
It ultimately becomes a matter of fairness.
The Australian federal capital district of Canberra, and Brazil's federal district of Brasilia both receive full representation in their parliament and Congress, respectively
I believe the United States might be the only western democracy on the planet which does not give representation to citizens living in the nation's capital district.
You're someone who comes on anonymous boards, lies about himself, and then pretends like he doesn't care.
That would require 2/3 support of Congress, PLUS majority support in DC, VA, and MD.
So it ain't happening.
More people live in DC than Wyoming. So maybe we swap? Wyoming can be the district with no representation, and DC can be the state.
That sounds fair to me.