A challenge for people who still believe in the "TOTALITARIAN LEFT"

[StoneByStone]

I already gave you a few. stop being an imbecile. cancel culture is real. you're a gaslighter failing.

Out of all of them, only Roseanne and Louis CK lost shows. So, sure, you could say they were stunted, but then they made comebacks. So if that's the case, then not only were they not cancelled, but getting "stunted" isn't that bad.

 

[Scut Farkus]

Out of all of them, only Roseanne and Louis CK lost shows. So, sure, you could say they were stunted, but then they made comebacks. So if that's the case, then not only were they not cancelled, but getting "stunted" isn't that bad.

so cancel culture isn't always 100% successful. that does not mean it isnt real.

and these people had careers before the internet age. now, with the star system being largely transferred to social media, it will be more effective as long as platforms can censor, which they can and are doing.

 

[StoneByStone]

so cancel culture isn't always 100% successful. that does not mean it isnt real.

and these people had careers before the internet age. now, with the star system being largely transferred to social media, it will be more effective as long as platforms can censor, which they can and are doing.

It's not that Cancel Culture isn't always 100% successful. It's that it's virtually never successful. I have still yet to see ONE celebrity who lost their career over something they said.

 

[Scut Farkus]

It's not that Cancel Culture isn't always 100% successful. It's that it's virtually never successful. I have still yet to see ONE celebrity who lost their career over something they said.

ok. stay dumb.

 

[blades]

But how are they blackballed if they still get work?

they are blackballed in that they are the last to be considered for mainstream work and most end up only doing solo events as with louis ck and Rosanne,,,

you need to stop moving the goal post,,,

 

[StoneByStone]

they are blackballed in that they are the last to be considered for mainstream work and most end up only doing solo events as with louis ck and Rosanne,,,

you need to stop moving the goal post,,,

I didn't move the goal post. I asked for an example of a celebrity who lost their career over something they said. So far, nobody has been able to come up with any.
When you say they're last to be considered for a role, that's nice, but that wasn't the question and that isn't Cancel Culture.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Most people are Right-Wing by classical definition.

Basically just a few idiots on the fringes of Western Europe & the Americas believe in Left-Wing politics.

 

[StoneByStone]

Most people are Right-Wing by classical definition.

Basically just a few idiots on the fringes of Western Europe & the Americas believe in Left-Wing politics.

The original divide between Left and Right was between Democracy and Aristocracy. The Leftists wanted Democracy, the Righties wanted to either keep or reform Aristocracy, but definitely didn't want Democracy. This is why even today, the Right is so easily swayed into Fascism. Many of the right-wing thinkers of the time are still popular on today's Right.
So it's hard to say which side most people are on. Most Westerners claim to believe in Democracy, which would make them left-wing, but there are lots of people who support the rigging of elections through things like the electoral colleges and gerrymandering.

 

[BattleofHodow]

The original divide between Left and Right was between Democracy and Aristocracy. The Leftists wanted Democracy, the Righties wanted to either keep or reform Aristocracy, but definitely didn't want Democracy. This is why even today, the Right is so easily swayed into Fascism. Many of the right-wing thinkers of the time are still popular on today's Right.
So it's hard to say which side most people are on. Most Westerners claim to believe in Democracy, which would make them left-wing, but there are lots of people who support the rigging of elections through things like the electoral colleges and gerrymandering.

The first Leftists were not just for Democracy but Capitalism too.

Which proves Capitalism & Democracy aren't Right Wing

Because Right Wing is about Race, Culture & Religion.

Not about cutting taxes & Capitalist deregulation.

 

[StoneByStone]

The first Leftists were not just for Democracy but Capitalism too.

Which proves Capitalism & Democracy aren't Right Wing

Because Right Wing is about Race, Culture & Religion.

Not about cutting taxes & Capitalist deregulation.

Yes and no. Back then, the Left was for Capitalism because it was a way better and more fair system than Feudalism. However, the Left was never in favor of this idea that no regulations is a good thing and they were never against redistribution of wealth. Basically, they wanted what we would today call Social Democracy.
The Right embraced Capitalism only when they decided that it could be used to keep wealth among the rulers.

Democracy is definitely left-wing. But Capitalism, well, it depends on how it's being defined.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Yes and no. Back then, the Left was for Capitalism because it was a way better and more fair system than Feudalism. However, the Left was never in favor of this idea that no regulations is a good thing and they were never against redistribution of wealth. Basically, they wanted what we would today call Social Democracy.
The Right embraced Capitalism only when they decided that it could be used to keep wealth among the rulers.

Democracy is definitely left-wing. But Capitalism, well, it depends on how it's being defined.

I've spent a lot of time researching politics.

My conclusion is there should 3 positions in a triangle.

1.) Right Wing Totalitarians who use force to push Religion, Culture & Nation.

2.) Left Wing Totalitarians who erode Religion, Culture & Race while supporting a classless society.

3.) Libertarians who value just freedom.
Which always ends up more or less clas hierarchy & socially degenerate & Liberal.

Most of the World fits in between but mostly with the Right.

Libertarians & Leftist Authoritarians ars fairly rare.

 

[StoneByStone]

I've spent a lot of time researching politics.

My conclusion is there should 3 positions in a triangle.

1.) Right Wing Totalitarians who use force to push Religion, Culture & Nation.

2.) Left Wing Totalitarians who erode Religion, Culture & Race while supporting a classless society.

3.) Libertarians who value just freedom.
Which always ends up more or less clas hierarchy & socially degenerate & Liberal.

Most of the World fits in between but mostly with the Right.

Libertarians & Leftist Authoritarians ars fairly rare.

Yeah, I'd agree most of the world would be option one. But here in the West, it's probably split between #1 and #3, with only a fringe #2.
But most Westerners wouldn't be considered Libertarians, since they also want social programs.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Yeah, I'd agree most of the world would be option one. But here in the West, it's probably split between #1 and #3, with only a fringe #2.
But most Westerners wouldn't be considered Libertarians, since they also want social programs.

I've spent a lot of time conversing with Europeans particularly Eastern Europeans.

It turns out they often called Capitalism Liberalism.
Or
Spoke of
Liberal Democracy.
Or
The Leftist freedom.

Some even think Stalin is more Right Wing than the West.

They are using more or less correct terms of politics unlike Americans.

 

[StoneByStone]

I've spent a lot of time conversing with Europeans particularly Eastern Europeans.

It turns out they often called Capitalism Liberalism.
Or
Spoke of
Liberal Democracy.
Or
The Leftist freedom.

Some even think Stalin is more Right Wing than the West.

They are using more or less correct terms of politics unlike Americans.

I'd definitely consider Stalin to be right-wing in that he consolidated power as opposed to spreading out power like in a Democracy. It's no surprise that Leftists immediately turned on Lenin when he started doing that.

But yeah, words and terms are constantly redefined. It's why I don't care about labels that much. Maybe Stalin was on the Right, maybe he was on the Left, who cares? What matters is that we reject any system that hordes power among a small minority of people.

 

[StoneByStone]

I've spent a lot of time conversing with Europeans particularly Eastern Europeans.

It turns out they often called Capitalism Liberalism.
Or
Spoke of
Liberal Democracy.
Or
The Leftist freedom.

Some even think Stalin is more Right Wing than the West.

They are using more or less correct terms of politics unlike Americans.

I'd definitely consider Stalin to be right-wing in that he consolidated power as opposed to spreading out power like in a Democracy. It's no surprise that Leftists immediately turned on Lenin when he started doing that.

But yeah, words and terms are constantly redefined.

 

[BattleofHodow]

I'd definitely consider Stalin to be right-wing in that he consolidated power as opposed to spreading out power like in a Democracy. It's no surprise that Leftists immediately turned on Lenin when he started doing that.

But yeah, words and terms are constantly redefined.

Because Libertarians can't make a Leftist lack of class.
Or
A right wing Nationalist Theocracy.

I see no reason but to see Libertarians as a third position.

 

[Bobb]

According to many on the Unhinged Right, Liberals have destroyed free speech. Supposedly, they either created a new totalitarian society in America where free speech is illegal or they created Cancel Culture which is totalitarian in nature. The conspiracy kinda goes back and forth, but it's definitely one of the two.

So here is my challenge for the Trumpcucks who believe this. Either list at least five Americans who have been arrested for saying something, or list at least five celebrities who have lost their careers because of Cancel Culture.

Hey faggot, who's claiming Free Speech has been criminalized? Are you too stupid to understand such phrases as "cancel culture", which is the fruit of the threat of violent lefty mobs? Where the government has stomped all over Free Speech, it does so in the civil realm, not the criminal realm. Man, you are one stupid mutherfcking facist pig.

 

[blades]

I didn't move the goal post. I asked for an example of a celebrity who lost their career over something they said. So far, nobody has been able to come up with any.
When you say they're last to be considered for a role, that's nice, but that wasn't the question and that isn't Cancel Culture.

thats moving the goal post,,,getting canceled doesnt always mean your careers over,,

look at what happen to tim allen,,he got cancelled but was able to find someone to pick up his show,,,

and we dont know about all the ones we dont know about,,,

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

According to many on the Unhinged Right, Liberals have destroyed free speech. Supposedly, they either created a new totalitarian society in America where free speech is illegal or they created Cancel Culture which is totalitarian in nature. The conspiracy kinda goes back and forth, but it's definitely one of the two.

So here is my challenge for the Trumpcucks who believe this. Either list at least five Americans who have been arrested for saying something, or list at least five celebrities who have lost their careers because of Cancel Culture.

To put into perspective how hard this is going to be for you, Mel Gibson still has a career.

If anybody's career got cancelled it was Kathy Griffin, but even that was only temporary, and she has since continued to work.

 

[StoneByStone]

Hello StoneByStone,



If anybody's career got cancelled it was Kathy Griffin, but even that was only temporary, and she has since continued to work.

Yeah, I've said that celebrities get backlash for certain things, but they never really get cancelled.
Ironically enough, the phony outrage over Griffin came from the Unhinged Right.