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Rodenberry was a collectivist commie. Plus I thought his shows were stupid.
Could we leave the Zimmerman/Martin comments off of this thread? I realize that is the story that is precipitating this conversation, but there are enough Z/M threads on this board. No need for another to devolve into the same old tired rhetoric about the case.
That being said. I think the notion that we live in a color free society is childish. We don't. Of course we see color when we see other people and there is nothing wrong with that. Do we have prejudices? Yes, and you would be lying if you said you didn't.
What I think we should strive for is a world envisioned by the Founders and Martin Luther King where people are judged by character not color. That is a different bird altogether. For example, I disagree with your politics, but I think underneath that you are a decent person. Same with Tekkychick. I think that if we were to meet out in person and didn't have the history of this board we would probably get along fine. It doesn't hurt that we are both Steeler fans.
However, BAC, Howey, Darla are all truly hateful, spiteful people who have no redeeming qualities whatsoever in my book. I could tell in 5 seconds that they aren't people I would want to associate with. And not it isn't because BAC is black and no it isn't because Howey is a queer and no it isn't because Darla is a chick. It is because I think all three of them are colossal assholes. But, you see in their collective minds they can't possibly be disliked because of that. They can't accept that notion. So they have to employ cognitive dissonance and presume that people don't like them becuase of their toxic personalities (because that they could change) and associate with things that they think they can't change (their color, sexual orentation etc). That way they don't own it and turn it back on the other person.
It is why they cavalierly throw around terms like racist, homophobe and misogynist the way they do. They don't really care about those things because they turn a blind eye to real acts of those deeds and focus on made up acts and perception.
But...and once again....isn't that what Rabid Conservatives do with abortion(every pro choice person is a baby killer), gay rights, renewable energy and a a few other hot button topics that escape me at the moment?
I mean, to think that vitriol is one-sided just because you happen to agree with one side and disagree with the other is kind of dishonest, is it not?
I mean, how many times do I, or any other liberal have to be called a Marxist idiot(and most of the time it's worse than that) ? How many times do I have to be called a BABY KILLER when I never even HURT a baby, let alone killed one?
I mean, yes....you're right...some of my liberal peers are volatile and over the top. But it's certainly not a one-way street.
I never claimed that vitriol is a one way street. Not once.
This thread is about whether we should live in a "color blind" society. I was merely pointing out that whether on this site or off the three aforementioned posters are A S S H O L E S
But...and once again....isn't that what Rabid Conservatives do with abortion(every pro choice person is a baby killer), gay rights, renewable energy and a a few other hot button topics that escape me at the moment?
I mean, to think that vitriol is one-sided just because you happen to agree with one side and disagree with the other is kind of dishonest, is it not?
I mean, how many times do I, or any other liberal have to be called a Marxist idiot(and most of the time it's worse than that) ? How many times do I have to be called a BABY KILLER when I never even HURT a baby, let alone killed one?
I mean, yes....you're right...some of my liberal peers are volatile and over the top. But it's certainly not a one-way street.
Isn’t that what we’re after? I remember a bad TV movie called the “Lathe of Heaven,” where the main character could dream basically any scenario, and it would come true. They asked him to rid the world of prejudice, and he dreamed a world where we were all part black, part white, part middle-eastern, part oriental, etc.
How do WE get there? Do we get there with Obama saying he could have been Trayvon? Do we get there with BAC and Desh calling anything that moves a racist, and focusing on what divides us instead of what we have in common? Or with those who agree with them telling us that we can't disagree, because we're not black? Do we get there by making the GZ trial ALL about race…instead of what it is, which is one crazy idiot doing something stupid, it getting out of hand, and there not being enough evidence or any law to put him in jail?
People need to step off of their self-righteous mountain & take a good, long, hard look at what their goal is – what they want for society, and the best way to achieve that. To me, you don’t achieve that by drawing lines, and creating sides. Everyone can change; everyone has changed.
Rodenberry was a collectivist commie. Plus I thought his shows were stupid.
i didn't mean that if someone wants to identify as X american, that it is a problem. what i meant is, why do we need to identify them as such? we don't do the same for irish etc...
Isn’t that what we’re after? I remember a bad TV movie called the “Lathe of Heaven,” where the main character could dream basically any scenario, and it would come true. They asked him to rid the world of prejudice, and he dreamed a world where we were all part black, part white, part middle-eastern, part oriental, etc.
How do WE get there? Do we get there with Obama saying he could have been Trayvon? Do we get there with BAC and Desh calling anything that moves a racist, and focusing on what divides us instead of what we have in common? Or with those who agree with them telling us that we can't disagree, because we're not black? Do we get there by making the GZ trial ALL about race…instead of what it is, which is one crazy idiot doing something stupid, it getting out of hand, and there not being enough evidence or any law to put him in jail?
People need to step off of their self-righteous mountain & take a good, long, hard look at what their goal is – what they want for society, and the best way to achieve that. To me, you don’t achieve that by drawing lines, and creating sides. Everyone can change; everyone has changed.
defending racism
"Do we get there with BAC and Desh calling anything that moves a racist"
we call racism racism you fucking racist
yes stop being the fucking racist party
or, you could stop calling everyone racist with no fucking proof.
"Do we get there with BAC and Desh calling anything that moves a racist"
we call racism racism you fucking racist