A first time in history opportunity slipping away

RB 60 said:
Nope.
Will you deny the Chinese lied about the severity of COVID? Or Fauci, in the beginning?
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Timeline: How Trump Has Downplayed The Coronavirus Pandemic​


Trump acknowledged to veteran journalist Bob Woodward that he knowingly downplayed the coronavirus, even though he knew it was more deadly than the seasonal flu.

"I wanted to always play it down," the president said in a March interview, the audio recording of which was made public in September. "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."

Here is a sampling of what Trump has said about the coronavirus threat:

 
RB 60 said:
Odds are? So no, you can't say whether or not, or if any of the Chinese "elites" perished. Of course, some of the general population did, but do you think the "elites" actually cared? Herd immunity? I guess the vaccine had nothing to do with lessening the effects and increasing survival rates.
Naturally, you couldn't forget mentioning Trump in your rant, yet it was he who pushed hard for the vaccine, and you know it.
Ah, so you finally admit it wasn't a bat that shit on a fish in a market, but it was a Chinese virology lab directly responsible with releasing that terrible virus.

Yep, I do hate them for releasing the virus that killed some of my friends and family, and millions of our fellow Americans.
If you want to stick up for them, that's on you. After all, it helped elect the disaster you voted for.
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Why are you frothing so ignorantly about this topic? Why are you so invested in blaming a country for a global pandemic that affected the origin's nation as badly as it did us and all the other countries on this planet? Nothing you say is making any sense to anyone with any scientific and/or medical and/or geopolitical knowledge. What is so hard to understand that a pathogen that causes a pandemic has no boundaries and no political qualities? Me pointing out -- correctly -- that the Chinese suffered as much as the rest of the world doesn't seem to get through your head. Blame them if you want. Accuse me of "sticking up for them" if you want. The facts are what they are. This virus was not deliberately unleashed upon the world by anyone but Mother Nature/evolution -- same for all past pandemics.

You made the claim that China created this virus for evil purposes including "population control." Prove it.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Why are you frothing so ignorantly about this topic? Why are you so invested in blaming a country for a global pandemic that affected the origin's nation as badly as it did us and all the other countries on this planet? Nothing you say is making any sense to anyone with any scientific and/or medical and/or geopolitical knowledge. What is so hard to understand that a pathogen that causes a pandemic has no boundaries and no political qualities? Me pointing out -- correctly -- that the Chinese suffered as much as the rest of the world doesn't seem to get through your head. Blame them if you want. Accuse me of "sticking up for them" if you want. The facts are what they are. This virus was not deliberately unleashed upon the world by anyone but Mother Nature/evolution -- same for all past pandemics.

You made the claim that China created this virus for evil purposes including "population control." Prove it.
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Yes, I blame them. They created the virus in their lab, financed by Fauci.

Why else was the virus created? What good would it have done, and why?
Leaked accidentally or not, there was no reason to create it in the first place.
 
RB 60 said:
Yes, I blame them. They created the virus in their lab, financed by Fauci.

Why else was the virus created? What good would it have done, and why?
Leaked accidentally or not, there was no reason to create it in the first place.
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You've been palling around with H10 a little too much. The crazy has rubbed off. None of that nonsense makes a bit of sense. Why on Earth would Fauci or anyone else help create a deadly virus? Read the link above. Sheesh.

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Walt said:
trump shutdown the CDC offices in China, right before the pandemic, forcing us to depend on China for our information about the origin of the pandemic. You would think that would have taught trump the error of his ways. he would realize diseases can cross borders, so we must invest in finding diseases in other countries. Instead, trump is going full tilt on not fighting disease.

You might think the first time in history opportunity is getting rid of Polio forever. WHO was on the verge of driving Polio to extinction before the pandemic, but now it could go either way. Maybe the WHO will wipe Polio out, or Polio might break out of is quarantine and ravish the world... especially the USA where vaccination rates have been dropping.

But Polio is a lessor opportunity. The big opportunity I am speaking of is worldwide virus monitoring. We can monitor the entire world for viruses, and see what viruses are moving through humanity. This will give us a fantastic picture on future pandemics, and early warning(often by decades) of coming pandemics. It is a huge opportunity. It will cost hundreds of billions of dollars to setup, and take a lot of time, but it is worth it.

There is only one organization that can do this, and that is the WHO. There is no way that trump gets the whole world to agree to a new organization. When trump leaves the WHO he is guaranteeing that this will not be done for decades to come. Putting Humpty Dumpty back together might not be possible, and will certainly take decades to happen.
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The claim is a lie:

The CDC’s China headcount has shrunk to around 14 staffers, down from approximately 47 people since President Donald Trump took office in January 2017, the documents show. The four people, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the losses included epidemiologists and other health professionals.
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Guno צְבִי said:

Timeline: How Trump Has Downplayed The Coronavirus Pandemic​


Trump acknowledged to veteran journalist Bob Woodward that he knowingly downplayed the coronavirus, even though he knew it was more deadly than the seasonal flu.

"I wanted to always play it down," the president said in a March interview, the audio recording of which was made public in September. "I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."

Here is a sampling of what Trump has said about the coronavirus threat:

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The idiots know this and that this is partly to blame for #TRE45ON's loss in 2020. I think the claim that "Trump pushed the vaccine" esp. ludicrous. He definitely took credit for it. But he got his in secret rather than publicly like other leaders across the country did. Trump preferred to continue to promote divisiveness, ignorance, and distrust of science and scientists. See @RB 60's ridiculous claims, for example.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The claim is a lie:


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Your link puts the blame squarely where it belongs.

"WASHINGTON(Reuters) - The Trump administration cut staff by more than two-thirds at a key U.S. public health agency operating inside China, as part of a larger rollback of U.S.-funded health and science experts on the ground there leading up to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters has learned."
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Your link puts the blame squarely where it belongs.

"WASHINGTON(Reuters) - The Trump administration cut staff by more than two-thirds at a key U.S. public health agency operating inside China, as part of a larger rollback of U.S.-funded health and science experts on the ground there leading up to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters has learned."
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The CDC did not leave China, as Walt is claiming.....he is lying again.
 
Long ago I was told that the Americans trained up the WUHAN lab and others in China....that the Americas were taken out shortly before the pandemic because it was decided that they were trained.

If true this is interesting.
 
martin said:
Don't be an ass, assuming you can help yourself. Chances are excellent the answer you replied to is more lucid than anything you've ever written here.
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Yet you cannot say whether or not any Chinese "elites" perished, can you? Maybe YOU shouldn't be the ass...
 
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