A serious discussion about the future of America

Walt said:
That is the real reason I am terrified of retiring. He stays home all day, only interacting with the outside world through the internet, and it drove him insane. I worry if I retire, a lessor version of that would happen to me.
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Disagreed on the timetable. I'm saying he was mentally ill, perhaps schizophrenia, and had to retire on disability due to his illness. For all we know he tried to burn a restaurant down or threw flaming cooking oil on someone else in a schizophrenic rage.

He is seriously mentally ill. Not just an alcoholic or a little depressed.

As for retirement, one major lesson comes to me: people who retire after 20 years can either retire to a life of leisure or start a second career, even if only a low-pay working for a charity or self-employed consultant. People who retire after 30 years tend to have their self-identity wrapped up in their career. Too old to start over, they tend to go downhill faster than those who spread their wings a bit after retiring earlier.

I'd been forced into career changes three times, all related careers, but still life-changes. I planned to retire at age 65. COVID turned that into retirement at age 64 and I am perfectly happy with it. I have hobbies and, before my illnesses this year slowed me down, worked as a volunteer with the Civil Air Patrol. All kept me busy.

FWIW, the biggest mistake people make is retiring in debt. Plan for it, both financially and lifestyle wise, is the best advice I can offer.
 
Stone said:
This whole forum has been loaded down with a joke since the day you got here.
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Nice projection, Fat Boy. Good to see you are finally recognizing your life is a joke. You're the lazy brother and everyone above you and below you in the office hierarchy knows it.

You have the power to change that by breaking away and becoming a man instead of always the "little brother".

Call it a "sabbatical" or whatever construction people call it. Take a year to see if you can break your familial co-dependency and do something on your own.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
demented/low IQ believers.
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Hahaha Democrats rely on big turnout of minority voters, the ones with the highest drop out and illiteracy rates. Of course, having low IQ's means most Democrats are oblivious to their own base. lol life in Banana Joe's Republic isn't going well for the left. All the blue cities and states are driving off their main tax base, white middle class professionals and replacing them with AA hired govt. employees.
 
EdwinA said:
Hahaha Democrats rely on big turnout of minority voters, the ones with the highest drop out and illiteracy rates. ...All the blue cities and states are driving off their main tax base, white middle class professionals and replacing them with AA hired govt. employees.
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Why do you think they are illiterate and drop out of HS, Ed? Do you think that's good for the country?

Agreed on the conflict between modern American culture and taxes. The Laffer Curve explains it.

Idiots like Trump propose cutting taxes and increasing spending for socialist programs like both Trump and Vance have proposed on the campaign trail. There needs to be a balance and the MAGAts want instability.


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Laffer Curve Explained: Tax Rates & Optimal Revenue — Penpoin.

What's it: The Laffer curve is a graphical representation of the relationship between the tax rate and total government tax revenue. The curve takes its name
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Laffer argued that the economy did not grow due to a lack of demand. But, it is more because the tax burden has been too high. High tax rates discourage producers from producing more output, and households are reluctant to work....

...In between these two extremes percentages, there is an optimal tax rate. At that point, the government can collect the maximum tax revenue. When it is lower (between 0% -x%), tax collection is less than optimal because it can increase the rate and collect more revenue.

Laffer-Curve.png
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Nice projection, Fat Boy. Good to see you are finally recognizing your life is a joke. You're the lazy brother and everyone above you and below you in the office hierarchy knows it.

You have the power to change that by breaking away and becoming a man instead of always the "little brother".

Call it a "sabbatical" or whatever construction people call it. Take a year to see if you can break your familial co-dependency and do something on your own.
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:magagrin:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Why do you think they are illiterate and drop out of HS, Ed? Do you think that's good for the country?

Agreed on the conflict between modern American culture and taxes. The Laffer Curve explains it.

Idiots like Trump propose cutting taxes and increasing spending for socialist programs like both Trump and Vance have proposed on the campaign trail. There needs to be a balance and the MAGAts want instability.


penpoin.com

Laffer Curve Explained: Tax Rates & Optimal Revenue — Penpoin.

What's it: The Laffer curve is a graphical representation of the relationship between the tax rate and total government tax revenue. The curve takes its name
penpoin.com penpoin.com
Laffer argued that the economy did not grow due to a lack of demand. But, it is more because the tax burden has been too high. High tax rates discourage producers from producing more output, and households are reluctant to work....

...In between these two extremes percentages, there is an optimal tax rate. At that point, the government can collect the maximum tax revenue. When it is lower (between 0% -x%), tax collection is less than optimal because it can increase the rate and collect more revenue.

Laffer-Curve.png
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I really don't give a damn how much revenue the government gets.
Strawman fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed on the timetable. I'm saying he was mentally ill, perhaps schizophrenia, and had to retire on disability due to his illness. For all we know he tried to burn a restaurant down or threw flaming cooking oil on someone else in a schizophrenic rage.

He is seriously mentally ill. Not just an alcoholic or a little depressed.

As for retirement, one major lesson comes to me: people who retire after 20 years can either retire to a life of leisure or start a second career, even if only a low-pay working for a charity or self-employed consultant. People who retire after 30 years tend to have their self-identity wrapped up in their career. Too old to start over, they tend to go downhill faster than those who spread their wings a bit after retiring earlier.

I'd been forced into career changes three times, all related careers, but still life-changes. I planned to retire at age 65. COVID turned that into retirement at age 64 and I am perfectly happy with it. I have hobbies and, before my illnesses this year slowed me down, worked as a volunteer with the Civil Air Patrol. All kept me busy.

FWIW, the biggest mistake people make is retiring in debt. Plan for it, both financially and lifestyle wise, is the best advice I can offer.
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You are probably right. He was in a position where he could not work, because of his mental disabilities. He actually posts a bit about that, blaming Democrats for causing the Persian Gulf which in turn caused his wife to have mental health issues, and finally causing his mental health issues. There are some questionable links in there.

I am saying the lack of connections with an offline community has made his mental illness worse.
 
Walt said:
You are probably right. He was in a position where he could not work, because of his mental disabilities. He actually posts a bit about that, blaming Democrats for causing the Persian Gulf which in turn caused his wife to have mental health issues, and finally causing his mental health issues. There are some questionable links in there.

I am saying the lack of connections with an offline community has made his mental illness worse.
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I strongly doubt most of #10's claims about his Army Intelligence wife and Army Ranger son.

Agreed on lack of connections IRL, but, IMO, that has more to do with him not seeking treatment and his propensity to self-medicate. Where his family is in all of this is unknown. Is he divorced? Separated? Living in a retirement facility?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I strongly doubt most of #10's claims about his Army Intelligence wife and Army Ranger son.

Agreed on lack of connections IRL, but, IMO, that has more to do with him not seeking treatment and his propensity to self-medicate. Where his family is in all of this is unknown. Is he divorced? Separated? Living in a retirement facility?
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Why would his wife serving cause him to be unable to work? I keep hearing the alt right talk about this post-PTSD syndrome, where someone else suffered a problem, they heard about it, and they were damaged by hearing about it. It goes something like "my grandfather was a POW in WWII, and while I never met him, I can not work because of that. So give me free money."

More likely his wife has mental problems from non-military related sources, and she found a husband who also has mental problems.
 
Walt said:
Why would his wife serving cause him to be unable to work? I keep hearing the alt right talk about this post-PTSD syndrome, where someone else suffered a problem, they heard about it, and they were damaged by hearing about it. It goes something like "my grandfather was a POW in WWII, and while I never met him, I can not work because of that. So give me free money."

More likely his wife has mental problems from non-military related sources, and she found a husband who also has mental problems.
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His mental illness and his wife's supposed service is unlikely to be related. There's a genetic component to schizophrenia, bipolarism and a few other mental health issues.

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Paranoid Schizophrenia: What It Is, Symptoms & Treatment

Paranoid schizophrenia is an outdated name for a schizophrenia subtype that experts no longer recognize. While the term is obsolete, paranoia is still a key symptom.
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Experts believe several risk factors contribute to developing schizophrenia. Those risk factors include genetic mutations you inherit from one or both parents, exposure to certain chemicals or substances, complications during pregnancy and recreational drug use. However, experts have yet to uncover any confirmed triggers or causes for this condition.

Is it contagious?​

Schizophrenia isn't contagious. It doesn’t spread from person to person.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
His mental illness and his wife's supposed service is unlikely to be related. There's a genetic component to schizophrenia, bipolarism and a few other mental health issues.

my.clevelandclinic.org

Paranoid Schizophrenia: What It Is, Symptoms & Treatment

Paranoid schizophrenia is an outdated name for a schizophrenia subtype that experts no longer recognize. While the term is obsolete, paranoia is still a key symptom.
my.clevelandclinic.org my.clevelandclinic.org
Experts believe several risk factors contribute to developing schizophrenia. Those risk factors include genetic mutations you inherit from one or both parents, exposure to certain chemicals or substances, complications during pregnancy and recreational drug use. However, experts have yet to uncover any confirmed triggers or causes for this condition.

Is it contagious?​

Schizophrenia isn't contagious. It doesn’t spread from person to person.
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Schizophrenia is not contagious, but paranoia can be a bit contagious if you know what I mean. trump insanity attracts other insane people, and then they begin plotting against each other.
 
Walt said:
Schizophrenia is not contagious, but paranoia can be a bit contagious if you know what I mean. trump insanity attracts other insane people, and then they begin plotting against each other.
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Fear, yes, but not necessarily paranoia to the point of mental illness. I do believe that people who are susceptible may be adversely affected. Then again, my education was in behavioral psychology, not psychiatry. There's some overlap but the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders was not in my training.

We're agreed that mentally ill people are attracted to political and religious extremism. Trump attracts nutjobs like a fucking magnet.
 
I am reminded of what Peter Hitchens says of the rump of the UK....."Get out if you can, there is no future here".
 
"The United States has nothing to offer Russia......(It) has zero resources.....militarily, economically, politically and morally"


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I just recently heard on my grapevine that the only thing America has left is terrorism.
 
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