Air Traffic Controllers Warned US Army Helicopter Ahead Of Crash

Hawkeye10 said:
I have not seen that, but the reason there was one not two is 100% on the supervisor.
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According to recent reports, the air traffic control tower at Reagan National Airport typically has around 19 fully certified controllers on shift, although the FAA and controller union target a staffing level of 30, highlighting a significant understaffing issue at the airport.

Key points:
 
FastLane said:
BTW Congress was given a private briefing and members are now reporting the helicopter pilots were using night vision.
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One of the guys I listened to said that the zig zag route indicates that they were, and were having basic navigation problems from take off.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Correct. I've tried to restrain myself from being among the chorus of voices with opinions. Mainly to observe the behavior of members. A little because, on a forum like this, members are all equal in terms of power be it wealth or physical. Since experts are treated as equally as dumbasses, experts can be observed by their absence. The dumbasses...well, you know.

Why do you seek to provoke me, Fredo? Are you angry?

After several weeks, it's been interesting to see how the media* blathers about the tragedy and also to see how various politicians blather about it. Watching Ted Cruz today repeat about the Army helicopter being too high and a further revelation about PAT 25's ADS-B being "turned off" was also interesting because it reflects Flat World thinking. 2D. Two dimensional thinking.

Those working in aviation work in three dimensions. This accident wasn't just a problem in vertical separation, it was also a problem in lateral separation.


*It's both funny and ironic how the MAGAts all bitch about "the Media" yet strongly support RW media.
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so you agree it was supposed to be under 200, then stfu dumbass.

:truestory:

A collision is a mistake in all dimensions, dumbass.
 
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Truck Fump / h1b said:
so you agree it was supposed to be under 200, then stfu dumbass.

A collision is a mistake in all dimensions, dumbass.
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First, I never disagreed on the altitude difference, Fredo.

Second, the fact you fail to understand the three-dimensional problem is expected since I know you are a few eggs short of a dozen.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
First, I never disagreed on the altitude difference, Fredo.

Second, the fact you fail to understand the three-dimensional problem is expected since I know you are a few eggs short of a dozen.
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a collision is a mistake in all dimensions. this is what i said.

do you disagree?

are you a fucking idiot or something?
 
Truck Fump / h1b said:
right.
It's ok to get altitude wrong because there are other dimensions.

Look at what a dumbfuck you are.
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Wrong again, Fredo, but then that's pretty easy to predict.

Disagreed, but I can see your Depends need to be changed and there's no orderlies around to do it. Sad.
 
EdwinA said:
Yes, corporatism fails too;' it's just another form of socialism.
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Redefinition fallacy (capitalism<->socialism, corporation<->socialism).
EdwinA said:
They like socializing the costs while privatizing the profits,
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A corporation is just a way of organizing a business. It is a business. Your redefinition fallacies won't work.
Redefinition fallacies (costs<->socialism, private company<->socialism).
EdwinA said:
hence why the U.S. has a long history of crime, poverty,
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Redefinition fallacies (corporation<->crime, corporation<->poverty).

Now, let's look at crime and poverty, since you brought it up.
The slaves were in poverty. They had nothing. They weren't allowed to even own the cloths on their backs. All of this was supported by DEMOCRATS, who STILL want slavery today.

Crime in the cities today is rampant and out of control because of DEMOCRATS. They have demoralized and defunded the police and they largely quit to work in better places. It is also DEMOCRATS the encouraged the importation of illegal aliens, including many violent criminals, and the drugs, and allow the homeless problem to continue.

Today's cities are like yesterday's plantations.

EdwinA said:
and union agitation.
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Again...DEMOCRATS.
EdwinA said:
The Red Chinese get along great with the owners of the big multi-nationals and retailers like Walmart;
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Go look again. Most stuff at Walmart is made in America.
EdwinA said:
they all see eye to eye when it comes to labor racketeering and monopolies, being technocrats.
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DON'T TRY TO BLAME THE PROBLEMS OF DEMOCRATS ON ANYBODY ELSE!
EdwinA said:
Right wingers will continue to lose to left wingers
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They didn't, you know.
EdwinA said:
and corporatists as long they insist on screwing over workers and small businesses. They really hate real competition and proles.
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Oh THIS again....

Any employee of any company can decide to quit and work for someplace anytime they want to.
Monopolies are naturally unstable. It isn't long before some startup comes along and shoots their kneecaps off with a better or cheaper (or BOTH!) product. Monopolies can ONLY continue to exist with government help (fascism or communism).

EVERY company must compete. EVERY company MUST serve it's customers or go out of business. Running a company is in and of itself service to others. NO company lasts long without customers!
 
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