Alabama Shooting

Watermark said:
A guy without any friends may just be a lonely weirdo, but crazy sociopaths fit the pattern too. Strangers and acquaintances probably just never stopped to think about it, so he seemed like a pretty "normal" quiet guy.
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Which begs the question, can we protect ourselves from someone like this?
 
Solitary said:
According to everything I have read, he quit his job.

There seemed to be a lot of people saying he was "normal", but then the articles I read talked about people not knowing who his friends were or going and looking in their yearbooks to see if they knew him.
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The more "normal" they can make him appear to be the more their agenda to disarm (take guns away from "normal" people) America is bolstered ......at least in their eyes.
 
Mottleydude said:
one appears to be a bolt action rifle. The other appears to be a semi/ automatic air cooled rifle.
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yes, but that bolt action can just as easily be a semi-auto like the other one. I'm at work so I didn't spend alot of time trying to find exactly what I wanted.

The main point being is that one LOOKS scary, while the other one doesn't.

That is all the gun hating media likes to do though, is bunch their panties up with the term assault weapon and make people believe that it's easy to get a machine gun out of the trunk of the alley gun dealer.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
yes, but that bolt action can just as easily be a semi-auto like the other one. I'm at work so I didn't spend alot of time trying to find exactly what I wanted.

The main point being is that one LOOKS scary, while the other one doesn't.

That is all the gun hating media likes to do though, is bunch their panties up with the term assault weapon and make people believe that it's easy to get a machine gun out of the trunk of the alley gun dealer.
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I'd probably shit my pants if either was pointed at me. I used to own a 30.06 and if it can knock down a buck at 300 yards.........need I say more?
 
Solitary said:
Which begs the question, can we protect ourselves from someone like this?
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I don't think there's any way to tell for certain whether someone is going to snap like this. One day science may figure out why people do crazy, senseless, violent things.

Until then just take comfort in the fact that it's rare, and carry a gun.
 
Actually bac's sarcastic answer is the solution. If a victim had been armed, maybe less would have been killed. I think his mom was done for no matter what.

Set your mom on fire? really? That's what you wanna do with your time? well, please kill yourself when you're done. thanks.
 
Mottleydude said:
I'd probably shit my pants if either was pointed at me. I used to own a 30.06 and if it can knock down a buck at 300 yards.........need I say more?
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That has always been my point concerning assault rifle bans.

I hunt with a Remington 700 in 7mm magnum. It is a seriously accurate and potent gun. If I knew the range, and there wasn't a bad wind, I could hit a target the size of a man's body at some pretty long ranges. And one hit with a 175 grain bullet would be all it would take.
 
Solitary said:
That has always been my point concerning assault rifle bans.

I hunt with a Remington 700 in 7mm magnum. It is a seriously accurate and potent gun. If I knew the range, and there wasn't a bad wind, I could hit a target the size of a man's body at some pretty long ranges. And one hit with a 175 grain bullet would be all it would take.
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Still....there's this nagging doubt in my head that something can be done to prevent occurances like this.
 
Mottleydude said:
Still....there's this nagging doubt in my head that something can be done to prevent occurances like this.
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There are ways to prevent it. But they would involve removing freedoms from everyone so that the very rare lunatic is not allowed to do harm.

If the only way this man could have harmed someone was by using a semi-automatic, clip fed, small caliber rifle, then I would be all for the assault rifle ban.
 
Watermark said:
He seemed to be a normal guy. It's pretty clear from the article that he was paranoid and vindictive to an extreme degree. A lot of people probably have violent, intrusive thoughts that they suppress, and it's a given that a few will act on them. His being fired from his job is probably what finally destabilized him.
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Maybe we should pass a law that you can't be fired?

Maybe we can pass a law that everyone has to undergo mandatory periodic psychological evaluations?

Maybe we can fix it so, if you have paranoid and vindictive tendencies, you can be incarcerated for it or institutionalized?

Of course, you will think this is completely ridiculous, but isn't it the train of thought of the anti-gun pinheads? In fact, any one of these measures may have been just as effective as banning weapons. Or, they may have been just as ineffective. The guy seemed "normal" from all accounts. If the weapons he used had been unavailable, what's to say he couldn't have gone to Home Depot and bought the hardware to make a flame thrower? No matter what restriction you put in place, no matter how intrusive and cumbersome you make things, when a person goes off the deep end, there is little you can do to stop them.

Here's a thought.... Maybe if the guy had been raised in a family who instilled moral values and reverence for life... maybe if he had gone to a school where students paid respect to God... maybe if his entertainment world weren't inundated with extreme glorified violence... maybe if he had been taught from the time he was old enough to learn, about the Golden Rule?

Nahhh... I doubt any of that stuff would have made any difference here... let's just ban guns and continue to allow society to desensitize us to death through our movies and music, to trash God and religion, to attack decency and morality at every turn! Then when stuff like this happens, we can ponder what could have been done, like the idiots we are.
 
Dixie said:
Here's a thought.... Maybe if the guy had been raised in a family who instilled moral values and reverence for life... maybe if he had gone to a school where students paid respect to God... maybe if his entertainment world weren't inundated with extreme glorified violence... maybe if he had been taught from the time he was old enough to learn, about the Golden Rule?

Nahhh... I doubt any of that stuff would have made any difference here... let's just ban guns and continue to allow society to desensitize us to death through our movies and music, to trash God and religion, to attack decency and morality at every turn! Then when stuff like this happens, we can ponder what could have been done, like the idiots we are.
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Charles Whitman went to a christian school. Surely they paid respect to God and taught the Golden Rule? Since he died in 1966, I don't think his entertainment was inundated with glorified violences.

So no, I don't think your answer is any better than those who want to ban guns. People were shooting each other when there was prayer in schools.

And exactly which God would you have them pay respect to, Dixie?

Jesus? Yahweh? Allah? Vishnu? Gaia? Mottleydude?
 
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