America is held hostage by flyover states

Boris The Animal said:
Is that the usual Liberetard solution? Move? My roots are dug in too deep and somebody has to keep the Communists in check.
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I was born in Boston Mass, lived there until I graduated college and left immediately. I go back for weddings and funerals, and spend as little time as possible there. It's a damn police state.

I ended up in Syracuse, down the Thruway from you. It was a breath of fresh air compare to eastern Mass. But taxes were way too high; the drag of downstate does that. When they kept the tolls on the thruway after it's 30 year bond was up, it was the last straw.

States are products. If Ford sucks, but a Chevy. If Chevy sucks, buy a Chrysler.

Moving to NC was the best decision of my life.
 
Dark Soul said:
I was born in Boston Mass, lived there until I graduated college and left immediately. I go back for weddings and funerals, and spend as little time as possible there. It's a damn police state.

I ended up in Syracuse, down the Thruway from you. It was a breath of fresh air compare to eastern Mass. But taxes were way too high; the drag of downstate does that. When they kept the tolls on the thruway after it's 30 year bond was up, it was the last straw.

States are products. If Ford sucks, but a Chevy. If Chevy sucks, buy a Chrysler.

Moving to NC was the best decision of my life.
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Buffalo's not too bad. And consider I have a couple of job prospects I'm looking at that will end up keeping me in NY State. But they'll pay more than double what I make now.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
The argument here is based on a false premise. Texas and Florida are hardly fly over States and the North East, Great Lakes and Pacific Coast States have enough electoral votes to win a Presidential election.

The Senate was designed to be undemocratic by our founding fathers and the Southern States have used voting in a solid block to dominate both houses with a minority of the population of less than 25%. That can be fixed in the House by eliminating seniority. The Senate would require a constitutional amendment to be based on population which is unlikely to happen.
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The Senate cannot be based on population. That is the only provision in the Constitution that cannot be amended. Amendments have bee introduced to eliminate it.
 
Fun fact: The number of Electors for each state is partly allocated by Census-counted population, which is the determining factor in how many Representatives each state gets in the House.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/allocation.html

Guess which state has a huge illegal immigrant population, 53 Representatives and 55 Electoral votes?

http://www.ppic.org/publication/undocumented-immigrants-in-california/

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_House_of_Representatives

Is it any wonder that some DEMOCRATS want to eliminate the current makeup of Senate and keep citizenship off the requirements for Census tallies?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I don't know about that but the purely partisan ones are....but so are the purely partisan liberals.
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I agree that the extremes of both the left and the right...are clueless.

Which brings up an interesting question. We know it's possible to be completely partisan but is it possible to be completely partial?
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Whew...threw me there for a while. Then a smile.

But the thought behind that comment is why I would never use either "conservative" or "liberal" as a label. I've been called both during Internet discussions by people who seem to think that if you are not "with them"...you are "against them"...if not a liberal, then a conservative; if not a conservative, then a liberal.

One doesn't have to be either...and more specifically, one does not have to be one in order to see the negatives of the other.
 
Flash said:
The Senate cannot be based on population. That is the only provision in the Constitution that cannot be amended. Amendments have bee introduced to eliminate it.
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This has never been tested. You, and others who claim as you do, may be wrong.
 
Boris The Animal said:
Buffalo's not too bad. And consider I have a couple of job prospects I'm looking at that will end up keeping me in NY State. But they'll pay more than double what I make now.
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I pay 1/4 the property taxes of my friends back in Upstate. And the sun shines during the winter almost every day.
 
Threedee said:
Leftists do love to test the plain meaning of words. Up is down: Amendable!!
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Facts bother the right.

It HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED.

MY GUESS...everything in the Constitution can be changed and amended...or the document is worthless.
 
Nordberg said:
They have a vote. Senators should be predicated on population . Wyoming has 2 senators. population 600,000 California 2 sens . population 40 million. That is not fair.
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you retards should of thought of that before taking all the power away from the states and handing it to the federal apparatus.

so quit your crying puss
 
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