AMERICAN GUN VIOLENCE: WE'RE A 24/7 SHOOTING GALLERY FOREVER--LIVE WITH IT

Phantasmal said:
Yes, it’s true you need help.
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https://onlinesequencer.net/773142
 
Phantasmal said:
Some abortions are needed, when the fetus threatens the life of the mother, when the fetus is so deformed it will only suffer debilitating pain when born. There are some abortions that are needed.
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Against the mother's will? I'm arguing in support of the human being who has to carry the fetus.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yet every time the gun argument comes up, we all hear/see the ammosexuals claiming that they NEED an AR/high-capacity mag/arsenal/whatever.

A woman with a dangerous health condition may very well NEED an abortion in order to live.

I'm confused about your argument here.
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you get two choices where rights are concerned. either show a need for EVERY right, or accept that rights do not require a NEED.........

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Dutch Uncle said:
Against the mother's will? I'm arguing in support of the human being who has to carry the fetus.
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I’ve never heard of an abortion against the mother’s will. I’ve heard of sterilization, but not abortions. Do you have examples of this?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
this is you projecting your own inadequacies on others.
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For sure. I have no doubt that if the Army or the state police wanted to get us out of our house, they could do it. For one thing, *we* don't have any tear gas or other chemical weapons. There are only two of us, and we can only shoot two weapons at one time. Sure, we could kill some of them but in the end they'd get us.

Or are you advocating that regular ppl should also have tanks, get-away planes, and RPGs? lol
 
Phantasmal said:
I’ve never heard of an abortion against the mother’s will. I’ve heard of sterilization, but not abortions. Do you have examples of this?
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I have, but that was in the sordid and horrible case of an out-state Missouri couple who took in a run-away teen and used her for years as a sex slave. They performed abortions on her more than once.

Otherwise, it doesn't happen, at least in the U.S. and at least by a licensed health care provider.
 
Phantasmal said:
I’ve never heard of an abortion against the mother’s will. I’ve heard of sterilization, but not abortions. Do you have examples of this?
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The fucking Nazis, Soviets and Red Chinese practiced it. Sometimes with bayonets.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I have, but that was in the sordid and horrible case of an out-state Missouri couple who took in a run-away teen and used her for years as a sex slave. They performed abortions on her more than once.

Otherwise, it doesn't happen, at least in the U.S. and at least by a licensed health care provider.
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Agreed. Like gun confiscation in the US, it's not legal yet. Is there any doubt some RWers would favor forced abortions or sterilization for certain demographics?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
For sure. I have no doubt that if the Army or the state police wanted to get us out of our house, they could do it. For one thing, *we* don't have any tear gas or other chemical weapons. There are only two of us, and we can only shoot two weapons at one time. Sure, we could kill some of them but in the end they'd get us.

Or are you advocating that regular ppl should also have tanks, get-away planes, and RPGs? lol
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historical documents denote that the founders wanted the people to be stronger than any standing army, so if the government is going to use tear gas, rpgs, and/or tanks, then damn right the people should have them as well.

Now, i'm not trying to tell anyone that they can singlehandedly take on the military, or even deal with a siege by law enforcement. what i'm advocating is that people start distrusting government, trusting their fellow americans, and unite in large groups to keep government from overreaching or abusing their powers
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I have, but that was in the sordid and horrible case of an out-state Missouri couple who took in a run-away teen and used her for years as a sex slave. They performed abortions on her more than once.

Otherwise, it doesn't happen, at least in the U.S. and at least by a licensed health care provider.
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That’s horrible. I wonder how she is these days?
 
Phantasmal said:
That’s horrible. I wonder how she is these days?
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I wondered that myself. One of the men convicted of raping and torturing her lived a few blocks over from us when we lived in St. Louis. He earned himself additional time in prison for firearms felonies, and for threatening the judge of the court where his trial was to be held with murder. His front yard used to sport a large flag pole with a giant Teatard flag flying from it. Really sickening to think that you could live that close to such a horrible monster and not know it. The girl was a child in foster care who ran away and was taken in by the convicted couple. They rented her out to various creeps like the one that was by us, and did pay-per-view stuff of her rape and torture. They shocked her with electric so much that she became mentally handicapped. They were caught when she went into cardiac arrest and the paramedics took her away.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/new...ng-new-revelations-in-missouri-sex-slave-case
 
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