An atheist philosophy of life, per Albert Camus

[Daylight63]

I seriously don't think ... the US Marine who falls on a grenade to save buddies would be ruled suicides by medical coroners.

What would you call it then?










Don't worry, Cy, I know you are INCAPABLE of formulating a response. You just shoot from the hip and hope people are impressed. I'm not. So I'm going to call you out on your BULLSHIT.

And as per usual you won't be able to defend your own point. You never can.


You're hilarious! And you will get SO UPSET about it. That's going to be funny.

 

[Cypress]

What would you call it then?

The Catholics don't have any problem distinguishing between suicide and self sacrifice, even if you are befuddled.

Suicide is a mortal sin in Catholicism.
But the martyrs are not considered to have committed suicide. The martyrs are held in utmost esteem.

 

[Daylight63]

The Catholics don't have any problem distinguishing between suicide and self sacrifice.

So medical examiners go by what the Catholic Church says? Interesting claim.

Suicide is a mortal sin in Catholicism. But the martyrs are not considered to have committed suicide.

I didn't realize medical examiners were focused on "mortal sins". Call me surprised.






Are you like really high right now? Because your post reads like you aren't even really paying attention to what you write.

 

[Cypress]

So medical examiners go by what the Catholic Church says? Interesting claim.

You're free to ignore the difference between martyrdom and selfless sacrifice, and the teenager who blows his brains out because his girlfriend ditched him.

 

[Daylight63]

You're free to ignore the difference between martyrdom and selfless sacrifice, and the teenager who blows his brains out because his girlfriend ditched him.

YOU were the one who brought up medical coroners, Cletus. Keep up.



You really are not as sharp as your packaging appears.

 

[Cypress]

YOU were the one who brought up medical coroners, Cletus. Keep up.

You really are not as sharp as your packaging appears.

Thanks for tacitly confessing there is a qualitative difference between selfless sacrifice and suicide.

I would think a marine who falls on a grenade will be designated KIA - Killed In Action, by the military. A coroner who writes "suicide" on the death certificate is seriously jeopardizing the religious beliefs of a lot of Marines and their families.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You're free to ignore the difference between martyrdom and selfless sacrifice, and the teenager who blows his brains out because his girlfriend ditched him.

Agreed, but I disagree with the Catholics on suicide since most are due to mental illness such as depression.

 

[Cypress]

Agreed, but I disagree with the Catholics on suicide since most are due to mental illness such as depression.

Yeah good point, I don't know how the Catholics and Orthodox deal with severe mental illness as a cause for suicide.

 

[Daylight63]

Thanks for tacitly confessing there is a qualitative difference between selfless sacrifice and suicide.

I would think a marine who falls on a grenade will be designated KIA - Killed In Action, by the military. A coroner who writes "suicide" on the death certificate is seriously jeopardizing the religious beliefs of a lot of Marines and their families.

Show me where the Medical Examiner would classify this as anything but a suicide.

Prove your point or I will take it as an admission that you are wrong.


Thanks.










For anyone watching: Cy won't reply with anything like support for his claim. He will, however, start whining.

 

[Daylight63]

Agreed, but I disagree with the Catholics on suicide since most are due to mental illness such as depression.

Make sure to cup his balls when you polish his shaft.

 

[Cypress]

Show me where the Medical Examiner would classify this as anything but a suicide.

You first have to prove that military coroners designate falling on a grenade to save buddies a suicide, rather than a KIA.

Designation as a suicide would seriously jeopardize the religious beliefs of many Marine families, and be considered incendiary. So your theory makes way less sense than mine.

 

[Daylight63]

You first have to prove that military coroners designate falling on a grenade to save buddies a suicide, rather than a KIA.

Designation as a suicide would seriously jeopardize the religious beliefs of many Marine families, and be considered incendiary. So your theory makes way less sense than mine.

As I suspected. All talk, no show.


You can't even defend your own position.


Pathetic.


You said you were "retired"? I honestly didn't know janitors had "retirement".

 

[Cypress]

I am massively obsessed with Cypress

ftfy

None of the articles I see about Navy Seal Michael Monsoor say he is dead by suicide. They all say he was killed in action or died of combat-related injuries.


"Navy Seal Michael Anthony Monsoor died of combat-related injuries sustained when he saved his teammates by throwing himself on top of a grenade that was thrown into their position in Ramadi, Iraq."

Michael Anthony Monsoor - National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum

Visit the National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum Virtual Memorial Wall. The Museum honors the legacy of all of these men and is committed to serving their families.

www.navysealmuseum.org

 

[Daylight63]

ftfy

None of the articles I see about Navy Seal Michael Monsoor say he is dead by suicide. They all say he was killed in action or died of combat-related injuries.


"Navy Seal Michael Anthony Monsoor died of combat-related injuries sustained when he saved his teammates by throwing himself on top of a grenade that was thrown into their position in Ramadi, Iraq."

Michael Anthony Monsoor - National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum

Visit the National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum Virtual Memorial Wall. The Museum honors the legacy of all of these men and is committed to serving their families.

www.navysealmuseum.org

Ahhhhh, so you're going on "gut" instinct. Tell you what: I"ll believe the shit you post the VERY SECOND you find a reference that actually SAYS exactly what you claim it says.




Given your general lack of skill in reading as evidenced by most of your posts we both know that isn't going to happen. You're just going to rely on "GUT FEELING".

Why do you CONSTANTLY make claims you can't back up?

 

[Daylight63]

ftfy

None of the articles I see about Navy Seal Michael Monsoor say he is dead by suicide. They all say he was killed in action or died of combat-related injuries.


"Navy Seal Michael Anthony Monsoor died of combat-related injuries sustained when he saved his teammates by throwing himself on top of a grenade that was thrown into their position in Ramadi, Iraq."

Michael Anthony Monsoor - National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum

Visit the National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum Virtual Memorial Wall. The Museum honors the legacy of all of these men and is committed to serving their families.

www.navysealmuseum.org

^^^^Here's how you know Cy never took a logic class.

He assumes ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE is EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE.

Typical rookie mistake. Do better next time, Cletus. Maybe you'll get the hang of it.

 

[Daylight63]

Since Cy forgot to check his usual Wikipedia I'll help him:

Altruistic suicide - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

LOL

 

[Bai Lan]

^^^^Here's how you know Cy never took a logic class.

He assumes ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE is EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE.

Typical rookie mistake. Do better next time, Cletus. Maybe you'll get the hang of it.

yes. that's all totalitarians.

they can't acknowledge the unknown because it feels like a loss of power for their sick and demented know-it-all personalities.

the unknown is a crack where individuality and free thought slips in, like cypress' anus.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yeah good point, I don't know how the Catholics and Orthodox deal with severe mental illness as a cause for suicide.

I think rules against suicide date back to ancient times when suicide was seen as 1) quitting and 2) harmful to the village by reducing warriors and mothers but haven't researched it very much.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

ftfy

None of the articles I see about Navy Seal Michael Monsoor say he is dead by suicide. They all say he was killed in action or died of combat-related injuries.


"Navy Seal Michael Anthony Monsoor died of combat-related injuries sustained when he saved his teammates by throwing himself on top of a grenade that was thrown into their position in Ramadi, Iraq."

Michael Anthony Monsoor - National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum

Visit the National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum Virtual Memorial Wall. The Museum honors the legacy of all of these men and is committed to serving their families.

www.navysealmuseum.org

I fail to see why you waste so much time on a Perry. He's obviously an adult with the mind of a child. Worth playing with for a bit, but pushing him back to where he came from like a baby with full diaper when he starts to smell.

 

[Hume]

I think Socrates, Saint Paul, and Alexei Navalny would rather have not been arrested and killed by state authorities.
Being willing to die for your principles is what makes martyrdom qualitatively different than the guy who kills himself because his wife divorced him.

Socrates could easily have avoided death. He chose it.