And they don’t understand why Kapernick took a knee.

cawacko said:
I'm not saying we should accept injustice. Because it won't go away doesn't mean we should accept it. Just as violence is a part of the human condition doesn't mean we have to accept all violence. I was speaking to the national anthem. To my knowledge, the national anthem is sung as unity for us as Americans. We could change that in the future by never singing the national anthem, or no one stand, or we all turn our back to the flag or we all kneel for various forms of injustice. That's always an option but would that maintain its effectiveness in the long run?
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I don't know why it's played at sports events anyway. It's not played at movies, concerts, dances, operas or lectures. And it *really* ticks me off when people use it as a patriotism test.
 
Darth Omar said:
So, in the space of a week, we see a young black man filming himself beating the living F* out of a poor defenseless old white gomer in a nursing home; and now we have a white cop using excessive force and killing a black man.

What’s the point?
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The left is a bit silent on this. Wonder why?
 
Nomad said:
Not sure you really understand the meaning of the word "coincidence".

If the man's health was shot due to years of drug abuse, any kind of stress could have killed him.

The point is that we don't know one way or the other.

But jumping to knee-jerk conclusions makes some people feel better I guess.
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You should sell used cars
 
Nomad said:
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You're trying to justify murder,with racism.
 
Phantasmal said:
The cop kept his knee there long after Floyd quit moving. It was excessive force, not natural causes, far from natural causes. When he wasn’t responsive, they could have at least rolled him on his side.
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Our racist posters are trying to sell,he would have died anyway,it's just a coincidence he happened to die,when the cop had his knee on his throat
 
christiefan915 said:
I don't know why it's played at sports events anyway. It's not played at movies, concerts, dances, operas or lectures. And it *really* ticks me off when people use it as a patriotism test.
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My understanding is we sang the national anthem during baseball games, maybe just the World Series, during WWI. And it was a show of patriotism. It was done periodically following and then done again during WWII. I have zero problem with that.

If they don't play it anymore I wouldn't lose sleep but I like it because it's something that should unite us all as Americans and with so much division I like things that can potentially unite us. Of course, like most things the anthem is a divider now.

I went to a Warriors game earlier this year and a 70 year old white lady was sitting a few rows in front of me in a $1K/ticket seat. She stood up and turned her back to the court during the national anthem. I found some irony in that but at the end of the day its her choice and life goes on.
 
Mr.Mason said:
Our racist posters are trying to sell,he would have died anyway,it's just a coincidence he happened to die,when the cop had his knee on his throat
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Since when is the back of someone's neck their throat?

Is there anything about this case you won't lie about?
 
TTQ64 said:
That's not a fact. It's a lie.
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That's strange?I worked in a poor black neighborhood,in urban Toledo 15years,rode a bike to work and back.Never had a problem with anyone.Why do these conservative white people fear blacks?Because they don't know any,or date any?
 
TTQ64 said:
And this is why it continues to happens.

White people refusing to believe it's racism. shrugging shoulders
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I didn’t say that. Please don’t put words in my mouth. Obviously racism is a major problem but you haven’t been paying attention if you don’t realize that the militarization of our police is also a major problem and one that exacerbates the racism problem.

So spare me the illogical false dichotomy. It’s not just possible but probable that both racism and militarization are a problem in our police forces. They are not mutually exclusive.
 
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christiefan915 said:
A military veteran inspired Kaep to take a knee during the anthem so your argument doesn't fly, Mr. Earl. Clearly Nate Boyer doesn't think it's disrespectful.

"U.S. Army veteran Nate Boyer convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel, rather than sit, while protesting police brutality during the national anthem."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/veteran-kaepernick-take-a-knee-anthem/
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No doubt Mr. Boyer wasn't in a "real war," so his librul opinion doesn't count. :rolleyes:
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I didn’t say that. Please don’t put words in my mouth. Obviously racism is a major problem but you haven’t been paying attention if you don’t realize that the militarization of our police is also a major problem and one that exacerbates the racism problem.

So spare me the illogical false dichotomy. It’s not just possible but probable that both racism and militarization are a problem in our police forces. They are not mutually exclusive.
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You mentioned your father’s story. About 20 years ago I had a cop slam my head into the ground, gave me a black eye and ended up having an ambulance take me to the hospital. I didn’t do sh*t. Cops can be a*holes
 
Hello christiefan915,

christiefan915 said:
I don't know why it's played at sports events anyway. It's not played at movies, concerts, dances, operas or lectures. And it *really* ticks me off when people use it as a patriotism test.
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Patriotism these days means wearing a mask. You wanna do something for your country you wear a mask. You observe social distancing. You take this seriously and you join the battle. That's more patriotic than flying flags or playing songs.
 
Mr.Mason said:
That's strange?I worked in a poor black neighborhood,in urban Toledo 15years,rode a bike to work and back.Never had a problem with anyone.Why do these conservative white people fear blacks?Because they don't know any,or date any?
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They've been taught all their lousy lives that Blacks are dangerous, lazy, criminals living off of white peoples tax dollars.

that the core of their entire ideology.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
The biggest barrier to police reform are the police unions. And that's coming from many liberal groups. So ultimately it's what you feel is more important, the power of unions or police reforms.
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I don't know about that but I know there is something called the blue wall.
 
cawacko said:
You mentioned your father’s story. About 20 years ago I had a cop slam my head into the ground, gave me a black eye and ended up having an ambulance take me to the hospital. I didn’t do sh*t. Cops can be a*holes
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Yeah that cop who used excessive force on my father was dressed like a storm trooper. He was absolutely enraged that my father didn’t pull over immediately even though it was patently unsafe to do so. I’d hate to think what would have happened if we hadn’t of had a cam corder.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I didn’t say that. Please don’t put words in my mouth. Obviously racism is a major problem but you haven’t been paying attention if you don’t realize that the militarization of our police is also a major problem and one that exacerbates the racism problem.

So spare me the illogical false dichotomy. It’s not just possible but probable that both racism and militarization are a problem in our police forces. They are not mutually exclusive.
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The reason for the militarization of police is due to racism, and Black america is the enemy.

Otherwise, they would'nt use Black mugshots for target practice.

Military grade weapons ARE MOST COMMONLY USED IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS.
 
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