Another year, more California 'exes' are living in Texas

cawacko said:
Bringing up Reagan reminded me that he signed CEQA into law. Of course at that time it was intended for uses very different than today.

CEQA is of course the NIMBY’s weapon of choice vis a vis housing but here’s another way it’s used courtesy of Scott Weiner (he’s the big favorite to take Pelosi’s seat when she retires).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869560701259513983
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If overcrowding is a problem, and it is in much of California, limiting housing is a great plan.
 
Jarod said:
If overcrowding is a problem, and it is in much of California, limiting housing is a great plan.
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Freedom is a better plan. Let the free market work things out. People will leave when they no longer want to tolerate over-crowding and high home prices. And on that note I saw a spacious 1,280 3 bedroom 1 bath home with no yard for only 2 million listed in SF. Meanwhile you can get more than 3 times the house on 3/4 acre in one of the best communities near Dallas for 500K less.
 
Jarod said:
If overcrowding is a problem, and it is in much of California, limiting housing is a great plan.
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I’m not saying overcrowding is a problem. It’s the same argument anywhere in the country “more housing equals more traffic”, “more apartments = more renters which is bad” etc.

Ok, close our borders then. Basically no more immigrants (legal or illegal). Decrease our population so we don’t have to build more housing.

Let’s see how that works for us.
 
ExpressLane said:
Freedom is a better plan. Let the free market work things out. People will leave when they no longer want to tolerate over-crowding and high home prices. And on that note I saw a spacious 1,280 3 bedroom 1 bath home with no yard for only 2 million listed in SF. Meanwhile you can get more than 3 times the house on 3/4 acre in one of the best communities near Dallas for 500K less.
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It is working out. People are leaving.

Very few want to live in Texas, that's why housing is cheap. A huge majority would rather live in California.
 
cawacko said:
I’m not saying overcrowding is a problem. It’s the same argument anywhere in the country “more housing equals more traffic”, “more apartments = more renters which is bad” etc.

Ok, close our borders then. Basically no more immigrants (legal or illegal). Decrease our population so we don’t have to build more housing.

Let’s see how that works for us.
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But parts of the Country need people to move in, your plan might help California's over population problem, but it aint gunna help Tulsa's underpopulation problem.
 
cawacko said:
I’m not saying overcrowding is a problem. It’s the same argument anywhere in the country “more housing equals more traffic”, “more apartments = more renters which is bad” etc.

Ok, close our borders then. Basically no more immigrants (legal or illegal). Decrease our population so we don’t have to build more housing.

Let’s see how that works for us.
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I want people to leave South Florida, overpopulation is a huge problem here. As it is in many liberal areas... But Ocala needs people to move in.
 
Jarod said:
It is working out. People are leaving.

Very few want to live in Texas, that's why housing is cheap. A huge majority would rather live in California.
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I'm OK with that Texas will get all the smart ones (except for the occasional smart one like Cawacko) the rest can stay in California.

:snoop:
 
Jarod said:
It is working out. People are leaving.

Very few want to live in Texas, that's why housing is cheap. A huge majority would rather live in California.
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Eh, Texas is the second largest state in the country. And while housing is certainly more affordable than certain coastal cities it’s not exactly cheap.

So while I don’t think a lot of people would choose Texas from a natural beauty perspective to live there, the number of people there (and who are moving there) belie your claim.
 
ExpressLane said:
I'm OK with that Texas will get all the smart ones (except for the occasional smart one like Cawacko) the rest can stay in California.

:snoop:
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You have any data supporting that? Seems to me Texas will get those who can no longer afford California. California will retain the wealthy tax payers.
 
cawacko said:
Eh, Texas is the second largest state in the country. And while housing is certainly more affordable than certain coastal cities it’s not exactly cheap.

So while I don’t think a lot of people would choose Texas from a natural beauty perspective to live there, the number of people there (and who are moving there) belie your claim.
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Seems cheap to me. I have looked into it, housing is very affordable in parts of Texas, not as cheep as Oklahoma but still cheap in my opinion.
 
Jarod said:
I want people to leave South Florida, overpopulation is a huge problem here. As it is in many liberal areas... But Ocala needs people to move in.
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If it's simply a liberal/conservative thing why are liberal states such as CA, IL and NY losing population and states like Texas and Florida gaining such population?
 
cawacko said:
If it's simply a liberal/conservative thing why are liberal states such as CA, IL and NY losing population and states like Texas and Florida gaining such population?
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Because NY and CA are very popular and housing is sky high, so those who cant afford it have to consider moving to less popular states.

Il is a different story, if they are moving from Detroit its because that city is a mess, but if they are moving from Chicago, its because of the how popular that city is and they cant hack it anymore.
 
Jarod said:
Seems cheap to me. I have looked into it, housing is very affordable in parts of Texas, not as cheep as Oklahoma but still cheap in my opinion.
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In rural parts of the state I'm sure. But compare housing in Austin, Dallas and Houston to much of the country and there's nothing cheap about it. (I look at housing all the time in Dallas when I visit the in-laws. Over $500/sq.ft. is cheap compared to some coastal cities but not many people are going to call pricing cheap.)
 
cawacko said:
In rural parts of the state I'm sure. But compare housing in Austin, Dallas and Houston to much of the country and there's nothing cheap about it. (I look at housing all the time in Dallas when I visit the in-laws. Over $500/sq.ft. is cheap compared to some coastal cities but not many people are going to call pricing cheap.)
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Is San Antonio rural?
 
Jarod said:
Because NY and CA are very popular and housing is sky high, so those who cant afford it have to consider moving to less popular states.

Il is a different story, if they are moving from Detroit its because that city is a mess, but if they are moving from Chicago, its because of the how popular that city is and they cant hack it anymore.
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LOL, now you're trying to give me some political narrative instead of what the data and reality shows. I don't have time at the moment to get into but happy to later.
 
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