Another year, more California 'exes' are living in Texas

cawacko said:
I have no idea, what does that matter?
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Prices in San Antonio are MUCH lower than San Diego or San Fransisco. If I had was finding the cost of living in those California hard to keep up with, Id consider moving to a much less expensive city like San Antonio.

Only very successful people can afford those California cities.
 
Jarod said:
Prices in San Antonio are MUCH lower than San Diego or San Fransisco. If I had was finding the cost of living in those California hard to keep up with, Id consider moving to a much less expensive city like San Antonio.

Only very successful people can afford those California cities.
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That'd explain why a semi-retired ambulance chaser who lost everything after his ex-wife caught him screwing the Hispanic housekeeper is still in Florida.
 
ExpressLane said:

Another year, more California 'exes' are living in Texas​


Another year, and a similar pattern continues: Many California businesses keep leaving.



Despite claims by California Gov. Gavin Newsom that California is “the beating heart of the American economy,” companies keep relocating. Their primary destination is Texas.

More than 360 companies have exited California since 2018, according to the California Policy Center’s California Book of Exoduses, which tracks corporate exits from California. Since 2005, more than half that left had relocated to Texas by 2023, The Center Square reported.

Among those exiting this year was Global tech company Simplilearn. Relocating from San Francisco to Plano, “one of the most dynamic tech communities in the United States,” was “a key contributor to its revenue,” Krishna Kumar, Simplilearn’s founder and CEO, said. Moving to Texas in October marked “a pivotal moment in our journey, driven by our commitment to being at the forefront of a thriving tech ecosystem and tapping into a diverse talent pool.”

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Resources Connection Inc., a management consulting firm, relocated its headquarters from Irvine, California, its headquarters of nearly 30 years, to Dallas on Nov. 1.

Medical device company Koya Medical, Inc. relocated its headquarters to Dallas from Oakland, expecting to create more than 200 new jobs. It received financial incentives from the Dallas City Council to do so.

ABBYY, a data analytics and AI company, relocated its global headquarters from Silicon Valley to what is now known as Silicon Hills in Austin. “Relocating our headquarters to Austin, where our product leadership team already is, places us at the heart of a growing tech ecosystem,” Ulf Persson, ABBYY’s CEO, said. The company began operating in California in 1999 and its headquarters in Silicon Valley in 2019.


FreshRealm, a meal kit company that fulfills and produces meals for retailers like Amazon, Kroger, Blue Apron, and others, relocated its headquarters from California to Lancaster, Texas. It broke ground in 2023 on an 88,000 square foot space to expand operations in Texas, which offers a “rich heritage of hard work” in a “dynamically growing region that is actively investing in its people and businesses,” its president, Snow Le, said.

At the beginning of the year, Graze Inc., a California robotic lawnmower firm, announced its move to Plano, “home to some of the world's most innovative companies …” and “the epicenter” of a “thriving economy.”

Companies based in other states that had operations in California also pulled them as Californians continue to face a homeowner insurance crisis. Galveston, Texas-based American National Insurance said it was pulling its homeowners insurance policies in California and other states due to “persistent underwriting losses over the last 10 years,” Insurance Journal reported.

State Farm, Allstate, AIG, Chubb, Falls Lake Insurance, AmGUARD, Tokio Marine America Insurance Co., and Trans Pacific Insurance Co. all announced they are leaving California, not writing any new homeowner insurance policies or renewing them, Insurance.com reported.

Every year, as California ranks last or near last, Texas ranks first as the best state for business, for attracting new businesses, first for job creation, job growth and economic expansion, The Center Square has reported.

In 2023, Texas gained 500,000 residents, with the most – more than 102,000 – coming from California, according to Census data. People are flocking to Texas because it has no personal income tax, a state government that supports law enforcement, its businesses are leading the U.S. in job creation and growth, and its economic expansion dominates, Gov. Greg Abbott argues.....
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Libratards are ruining California. I hope they don't ruin Texas while they are at it.
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Even Trump choses to reside in the most liberal of cities.
 
Jarod said:
Because NY and CA are very popular and housing is sky high, so those who cant afford it have to consider moving to less popular states.

Il is a different story, if they are moving from Detroit its because that city is a mess, but if they are moving from Chicago, its because of the how popular that city is and they cant hack it anymore.
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A big reason housing is sky high is because they don't enough of it. One doesn't have to be an econ major to recognize prices increase if you don't let supply keep up with demand. Is that something to brag about?

And Chicago isn't losing population because of how popular it is and people can't hack it.
 
Jarod said:
Prices in San Antonio are MUCH lower than San Diego or San Fransisco. If I had was finding the cost of living in those California hard to keep up with, Id consider moving to a much less expensive city like San Antonio.

Only very successful people can afford those California cities.
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The big cities in Texas (where people move to) are Houston, Dallas and Austin. Those cities are cheaper than coastal cities, but they aren't cheap cities. (Especially Austin as they have an anti-development mentality and have not allowed their infrastructure and supply of housing keep up with the growth)
 
Jarod said:
Prices in San Antonio are MUCH lower than San Diego or San Fransisco. If I had was finding the cost of living in those California hard to keep up with, Id consider moving to a much less expensive city like San Antonio.

Only very successful people can afford those California cities.
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And more people in SA so more slip and falls. :unsure:
 
Jarod said:
Because NY and CA are very popular and housing is sky high, so those who cant afford it have to consider moving to less popular states.

Il is a different story, if they are moving from Detroit its because that city is a mess, but if they are moving from Chicago, its because of the how popular that city is and they cant hack it anymore.
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There are a couple of ironies to me about the bolded.

For starters it reminds of the debate in San Francisco where the progressives are against the 'tech bros' who they say are driving up prices, causing minorities, LBGTQ+, artists and creatives types to have to leave and taking the soul of the City away. There are plenty like yourself who happily wave them good bye and have the 'you can't hack it' attitude. In the grander political scene it's usually Democrats who claim they are for the working guy etc. yet the 'they can't hack it' attitude seems quite the opposite.

You're fond of talking about wokeness and pride yourself on being woke. Your attitude towards housing is the exact opposite of woke. It's the ultimate 'fvck you I've got mine' mindset. Minorities own housing at lower percentages than whites. By keeping existing zoning and stopping new development under the guise of "it's overcrowded" only makes it harder for minorities to join the ranks of home ownership and even just to live in more dynamic areas (for job growth).

People love to virtue signal their wokeness but when it comes to real worlds actions, often quite a different story.
 
cawacko said:
There are a couple of ironies to me about the bolded.

For starters it reminds of the debate in San Francisco where the progressives are against the 'tech bros' who they say are driving up prices, causing minorities, LBGTQ+, artists and creatives types to have to leave and taking the soul of the City away. There are plenty like yourself who happily wave them good bye and have the 'you can't hack it' attitude. In the grander political scene it's usually Democrats who claim they are for the working guy etc. yet the 'they can't hack it' attitude seems quite the opposite.

You're fond of talking about wokeness and pride yourself on being woke. Your attitude towards housing is the exact opposite of woke. It's the ultimate 'fvck you I've got mine' mindset. Minorities own housing at lower percentages than whites. By keeping existing zoning and stopping new development under the guise of "it's overcrowded" only makes it harder for minorities to join the ranks of home ownership and even just to live in more dynamic areas (for job growth).

People love to virtue signal their wokeness but when it comes to real worlds actions, often quite a different story.
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Yep its like the sanctuary city New York getting fed up with a few thousand migrants after telling Texas to just suck it up for years.
 
cawacko said:
There are a couple of ironies to me about the bolded.

For starters it reminds of the debate in San Francisco where the progressives are against the 'tech bros' who they say are driving up prices, causing minorities, LBGTQ+, artists and creatives types to have to leave and taking the soul of the City away. There are plenty like yourself who happily wave them good bye and have the 'you can't hack it' attitude. In the grander political scene it's usually Democrats who claim they are for the working guy etc. yet the 'they can't hack it' attitude seems quite the opposite.

You're fond of talking about wokeness and pride yourself on being woke. Your attitude towards housing is the exact opposite of woke. It's the ultimate 'fvck you I've got mine' mindset. Minorities own housing at lower percentages than whites. By keeping existing zoning and stopping new development under the guise of "it's overcrowded" only makes it harder for minorities to join the ranks of home ownership and even just to live in more dynamic areas (for job growth).

People love to virtue signal their wokeness but when it comes to real worlds actions, often quite a different story.
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There is something to be said for keeping a broad mix for different types of people in city, I think it makes the cities stronger.

I was talking from a purely economics perspective, which I do not believe we should ever be purely Capitalist. Pure Capitalism breeds serious problems, so in that way I agree with you.

I think you have made a great point.
 
cawacko said:
The big cities in Texas (where people move to) are Houston, Dallas and Austin. Those cities are cheaper than coastal cities, but they aren't cheap cities. (Especially Austin as they have an anti-development mentality and have not allowed their infrastructure and supply of housing keep up with the growth)
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The liberal areas of Texas.
 
Jarod said:
The liberal areas of Texas.
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Jesus dude. Not everyone who moves moves into the City of Dallas, Houston etc. Much of the growth in those areas are in the suburbs (which lean more conservative).

For example, you think the cities of houston, dallas or austin have different abortion laws than the state of Texas does? Like somehow you're protected in those cities?
 
cawacko said:
Jesus dude. Not everyone who moves moves into the City of Dallas, Houston etc. Much of the growth in those areas are in the suburbs (which lean more conservative).

For example, you think the cities of houston, dallas or austin have different abortion laws than the state of Texas does? Like somehow you're protected in those cities?
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Jarod said:
There is something to be said for keeping a broad mix for different types of people in city, I think it makes the cities stronger.

I was talking from a purely economics perspective, which I do not believe we should ever be purely Capitalist. Pure Capitalism breeds serious problems, so in that way I agree with you.

I think you have made a great point.
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Housing is far from pure capitalism in most places (especially California). So many rules and regulations and hoops you have to jump through to get approval to build etc. that that process alone makes building "affordable" housing almost impossible due to the costs dealing with the aforementioned issues. And then you throw in gov't controls such as rent control which only cause prices to rise and you have the housing (and affordability) crisis we have today.

We need more capitalism in housing allowing supply to keep up with demand, allowing for ADU's and the conversion of garages etc. There are things we can do but NIMBYism is a powerful powerful force (and it's also bi-partisan).
 
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