Are Blacks Are Too Stupid to Obtain Voter ID?

[anonymoose]

it really is hard for blacks to get I.d.

The new Georgia voter law will provide them for free. When the left still claims that law is rayciss, logic tells me the left really does believe blacks are just too lazy to get one.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

White libs think Blacks are stupid and inferior.

So they're like Trumpsters and Republicans?

I fully support Voter ID as long as it isn't being used as a backdoor Poll Tax, which it often is. Voter ID disenfranchises the poor and elderly based on how it's implemented. This, disproportionately, disenfranchises African-Americans. What is wrong with State's providing ID for all citizens and allowing five years for full implementation?

There's a lot of uses for a State-funded ID program; right to work, right to rent/buy housing, voting, etc. Anyone without a State ID would be detained until they could verify residency. Everyone would be required to carry their ID at all times. Is this what you want?

 

[Legion]

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/202...e-liberals-blacks-too-stupid-obtain-voter-id/

It doesn't matter. Here's why:

Congressional Democrats plan to use their new-found majorities to permanently expand vote-by mail after an election that saw both record turnout and former President Donald Trump’s failed attempts to block New Jersey and other states from making it easier in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

The bill would let anyone could vote by mail for any reason and receive postage-paid envelopes for requesting and returning ballots. States would have to set up secure drop boxes for completed ballots. Any ballots postmarked by Election Day but received up to 10 days later would count, and voters whose ballots are rejected would have to be notified and given time to fix problems such as mismatched signatures

The bill also would create automatic voter registration and allow people to register on the same day they vote, require all states to provide 15 days for early voting, allow voters to sign affidavits in lieu of presenting photo IDs, and eliminate requirements that ballots be notarized or witnessed.

“We should have standardize rules and that’s what this bill is doing,” said Stephen Spaulding, senior counsel for public policy at the advocacy group Common Cause. “This hopefully would tamp down on all of that chaotic litigation by getting these rules settled and setting a national standard

The provisions are part of the Democrats’ campaign finance, ethics and voting legislation, designated at H.R. 1 in the new Congress to denote its priority. Democrats control the Senate as well and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer followed suit by numbering his bill as S. 1

 

[jbander]

the source is irrelevant.


The leftist argument against voter id is that its designed to keep minorities especially blacks from voting, which indeed begs the question, why do white leftists think that blacks are less capable of them than getting state id?

No the question is, why does your hate party think that, if they didn't they surely wouldn't be wasting their time doing it for absolutely no reason under the sun. The right are haters bigots and ugly.

 

[jbander]

So they're like Trumpsters and Republicans?

I fully support Voter ID as long as it isn't being used as a backdoor Poll Tax, which it often is. Voter ID disenfranchises the poor and elderly based on how it's implemented. This, disproportionately, disenfranchises African-Americans. What is wrong with State's providing ID for all citizens and allowing five years for full implementation?

There's a lot of uses for a State-funded ID program; right to work, right to rent/buy housing, voting, etc. Anyone without a State ID would be detained until they could verify residency. Everyone would be required to carry their ID at all times. Is this what you want?

There is not a single reason in the world for voter ID other then taking away the vote of any block of people who have a majority of Democrats. Try real hard and give us another reason, supported by some justification.

 

[jbander]

The new Georgia voter law will provide them for free. When the left still claims that law is rayciss, logic tells me the left really does believe blacks are just too lazy to get one.

Logic tells me you are just another right wing bigot.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

There is not a single reason in the world for voter ID other then taking away the vote of any block of people who have a majority of Democrats. Try real hard and give us another reason, supported by some justification.

election security. this is easy.

are all requirements for I.d. racist? if not, why not? show your work.

 

[anonymoose]

Logic tells me you are just another right wing bigot.

Why do you believe blacks are too lazy to bother to get free ID’s so they can vote?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

There is not a single reason in the world for voter ID other then taking away the vote of any block of people who have a majority of Democrats. Try real hard and give us another reason, supported by some justification.

Whose sock puppet do you belong to?

Disagreed since the main reason for Voter ID is election integrity. The problem isn't requiring an ID. The problem is ensuring all American voters have equal and convenient access to Voter ID.

BTW, it's a great way to identify illegals.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Why do you believe blacks are too lazy to bother to get free ID’s so they can vote?

It's not race thing, it's a poverty and elderly thing.

Fortunately, Governor Cuomo helped solve the problem of elderly voters in old folks homes being able to vote; he infected them with COVID.

 

[jbander]

Why do you believe blacks are too lazy to bother to get free ID’s so they can vote?

That is simply just a brain dead question. That would only come from a hate Nazi, bigoted brain dead.

 

[anonymoose]

That is simply just a brain dead question. That would only come from a hate Nazi, bigoted brain dead.

I don’t think blacks are too stupid or lazy to get an ID. That would be you apparently .

 

[jbander]

Whose sock puppet do you belong to?

Disagreed since the main reason for Voter ID is election integrity. The problem isn't requiring an ID. The problem is ensuring all American voters have equal and convenient access to Voter ID.

BTW, it's a great way to identify illegals.

Illegals don't vote and there is no voter fraud, so if those are your reasons ,then that just verifies the fact that it is a waste of time , other then taking away the votes of Democrats By the Bonzo space monkeys of the right.you are a joke. I got to admit I do enjoy it when a space monkey steps right up and verifies the stupid stamp written on their forehead. It is kind of fun, don't you think?

 

[jbander]

I don’t think blacks are too stupid or lazy to get an ID. That would be you apparently .

I have to wonder how dumb a person has to believe your bullshit nonsense and the way you bring it out is third grade at the most.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I don’t think blacks are too stupid or lazy to get an ID. That would be you apparently .

Me neither. OTOH, poor people are regularly disenfranchised due to both the cost of obtaining an ID and politically biased closure of polling stations in poor areas. It's clearly biased and anti-American to disenfranchise any American voters.

https://newsroom.niu.edu/2020/10/13/how-hard-is-it-to-vote-in-your-state/
Other factors that make voters jump through more hoops in some states include strict voter ID laws, cumbersome absentee voting processes and a lack of early voting options.

The initial Cost of Voting Index, which examined two decades of data, was published in 2018. In recent years, the researchers have seen dynamic changes in voting laws. States that moved up considerably on the ease-of-vote ranking, by making concerted efforts to make the voting process more hassle-free, include Virginia, Michigan, Hawaii, Vermont, Ohio, New York, South Dakota, Washington, Illinois and Rhode Island.

 

[jbander]

Right wingers are like arguing with 6 year olds. Boy they can really bring the tough stuff.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Illegals don't vote and there is no voter fraud, so if those are your reasons ,then that just verifies the fact that it is a waste of time , other then taking away the votes of Democrats By the Bonzo space monkeys of the right.you are a joke. I got to admit I do enjoy it when a space monkey steps right up and verifies the stupid stamp written on their forehead. It is kind of fun, don't you think?

Care to place a wager? Here's a hint: note the difference between State voting laws and Federal voting laws.

Voter fraud exists, but it's rare. No voter fraud has ever swayed an election. Not even in 2016 as many of the LWLs screamed happened.

Sorry, I don't speak sock puppet so I have no idea what "Bonzo space monkeys" means.

 

[jbander]

Care to place a wager? Here's a hint: note the difference between State voting laws and Federal voting laws.

Voter fraud exists, but it's rare. No voter fraud has ever swayed an election. Not even in 2016 as many of the LWLs screamed happened.

Sorry, I don't speak sock puppet so I have no idea what "Bonzo space monkeys" means.

Nonsense, total bullshit. Immigrants don't vote and there is no voter fraud. you have no argument. Heritage foundation did a in depth study on voter fraud for many years , in all those many years they did the study, 4 people were found guilty of voter fraud in a presidential election, three by Republicans and one by a democrat.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nonsense, total bullshit. Immigrants don't vote and there is no voter fraud. you have no argument. Heritage foundation did a in depth study on voter fraud for many years , in all those many years they did the study, 4 people were found guilty of voter fraud in a presidential election, three by Republicans and one by a democrat.

Dude, you really need to screen your own posts to avoid looking stupid. Of course immigrants can vote. It depends upon the state or if they've been naturalized.

Voter fraud exists, despite your lies that it doesn't. OTOH, the Republicans lie about how often it occurs, so you're equal to a Trumpster.

Good thing you are smart enough to not bet me.

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States
In 1996, the U.S. Congress passed a law prohibiting noncitizens from voting in federal elections, such as U.S. House, U.S. Senate, and presidential elections. Federal law did not address state or local elections.[1]

As of March 2020, two state constitutions specified that noncitizens may not vote in state and local elections: Arizona's and North Dakota's. No state constitutions explicitly allowed noncitizens to vote in state or local elections.[2]

Ten municipalities across the country allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of March 2020. Nine were located in Maryland. The other was San Francisco, California.

According to the Pew Research Center, there were approximately 25 million noncitizens living in the U.S. as of 2017. That included 12.3 million permanent residents and 2.2 million temporary residents in the country with legal permission and 10.5 million living in the country without legal permission



https://www.demos.org/sites/default/files/publications/Analysis.pdf
The September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks spurred a major legislative initiative, the Real ID Act of 2005,
which requires states to meet costly minimum security standards for drivers’ licenses that many fear will
move the country toward a system of national ID—with negative consequences for electoral participation.1

Voter ID debates currently raging across the states join the disparate issues of voter fraud and election
integrity, security against terrorist attacks, and identification requirements. Proponents argue that more
stringent ID requirements like those embodied in a “Real ID” driver’s license are needed to protect against
voter fraud at the polls, and opponents argue that voter ID is a solution in search of a problem.


https://www.brennancenter.org/sites.../Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf
 A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of
impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny
number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but
any and all credible claims.
 Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly
negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud
nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states
where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful
prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.
 A review of the 2016 election found four documented cases of voter fraud.

 

[anonymoose]

Nonsense, total bullshit. Immigrants don't vote and there is no voter fraud. you have no argument. Heritage foundation did a in depth study on voter fraud for many years , in all those many years they did the study, 4 people were found guilty of voter fraud in a presidential election, three by Republicans and one by a democrat.

I’ll tell you this: Our last mayoral election was mail in and thousands never received a ballot including me. I have ID, a voter registration card yet to vote I would have had to stand in line for about 2 hours at one of the two polling places available. I stood in line for about 40 or 50 minutes chatting with the other folks in line . NONE of them had received a ballot. ALL were from precincts that traditionally vote conservative. Our assembly and (acting) mayor are far left with an agenda to turn our once fair city into another Portland.
Fortunately conservative voters cherish their right to vote , many stood in line for hours, and it appears we will make a course correction in the runoff.
Eventually I gave up and for possibly the first time in my life I didn’t vote. And I vote in EVERY election, no matter how insignificant. I hadn’t budgeted that much time unexpectedly.