Are eucalyptus trees the cause of the CA fires?

Kurmugeon said:
Introduced invasive species are certainly a problem, just look at the Russia Thistle, aka , the Tumbleweed.


It will take time, and patience to achieve a new equilibrium.


There is much we could learn from this experience.


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There are many varieties of tumbleweed, including native species across the deserts of the Southwest and on into Texas. The Russian Thistle is an invasive species, but it's only just another tumbleweed.

Tumbleweeds aren't really a problem until they find a fence near a road. They pile up there in great bunches. If a fire hits them, they rise into the air and carry the fire across the road.

Oh...and the seeds still survive, to reclaim the burned area with new tumbleweeds.

Fires always occur in deserts. There is dry stuff to burn, and lightning storms that start fires. Sometimes all it takes is a dewdrop to start a fire.

That's not where the arsonists live.

Democrats prohibited removing dry brush, so...it burns. Arsonists start these fires in the name of the Church of Global Warming to 'prove' how dangerous 'climate change' really is.

(Climate cannot change...the phrase is just another attempt to rename the Church of Global Warming)
 
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I wonder if the endangered spotted owl (the owl woman) got further endangered by
these wild fires. Looks like owls are also on the list to be extinguished by the inept and
failed safety measures by the dem leaders to secure the state's life. Oh how the lefty
nonsense that our world will come to an end in less than a decade due to climate change.
Will someone please give these dumb lefties a fire extinguisher and a water hose so that
their safety from another climate change fire will be well protected.

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Text Drivers are Killers said:
Democrats like the stupid trees because they're pretty and smell nice! Doesn't take much to get one burning. They are full of oil.


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Dumbass: the eucalyptus in SoCal was from the middel 1800's. So this whole "leftist" thing is stupidity. It was thought these were going to be great for railroad ties and other medicinal and other industrial applications (they were NOT good for rail road uses). So Southern Californians planted them by the zillions. They are hideous horrid trees that are a huge fire hazard.

But don't make this into a left-right thing. This looooooong predates that.
 
Libhater said:
I wonder if the endangered spotted owl (the owl woman) got further endangered by
these wild fires. Looks like owls are also on the list to be extinguished by the inept and
failed safety measures by the dem leaders to secure the state's life. Oh how the lefty
nonsense that our world will come to an end in less than a decade due to climate change.
Will someone please give these dumb lefties a fire extinguisher and a water hose so that
their safety from another climate change fire will be well protected.

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The spotted owl is not endangered. They have a wide range in forests across the United States. They prefer taller trees near a meadow, where they can hunt for the mice they eat.

They don't like old growth forests. No food there for them.
 
Diogenes said:
Are all pines considered invasive species?
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Maybe by some idiot government bureaucrat, but the pine tree grows all over the world. It prefers well drained soil and occasional rains.
Although pine does exist on the 'wet' side of the mountains in Washington, they are rare. They prefer the conditions on the 'dry' side of the mountains, but where they can still get the rain they need.
 
Into the Night said:
Maybe by some idiot government bureaucrat, but the pine tree grows all over the world. It prefers well drained soil and occasional rains.
Although pine does exist on the 'wet' side of the mountains in Washington, they are rare. They prefer the conditions on the 'dry' side of the mountains, but where they can still get the rain they need.
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Australian Pines (Casuarina equisetifolia), also known as ironwood or she-oak, are considered invasive species in many parts of the world, including Florida in the United States, for several reasons:

  1. Rapid Growth and Spread: They grow quickly and can outcompete native vegetation for resources like sunlight, water, and nutrients. Their dense root systems and rapid growth rate allow them to dominate areas, reducing biodiversity by overshadowing and outcompeting other plant species.
  2. Allelopathy: Australian Pines produce chemicals that can inhibit the growth of other plants around them. This allelopathic effect can further reduce native plant diversity by altering soil conditions or directly affecting other plants' growth.
  3. Seed Dispersal: They produce a large number of seeds which are easily dispersed by wind and water. In areas like coastal Florida, seeds can be carried by ocean currents to new areas, expanding their range.
  4. Soil Changes: They can alter soil composition, making it less suitable for native species. Their root systems can change soil structure, and their leaf litter can change soil pH and nutrient availability, which might not favor local flora.
  5. Lack of Natural Predators: In regions where they are not native, Australian Pines often face fewer natural controls like pests or diseases that would keep their populations in check in their native Australia. This allows them to grow unchecked.
  6. Impact on Wildlife: While they do provide some habitat, the overall impact on local wildlife can be negative. They can degrade habitats for native animals by changing the structure and composition of ecosystems, reducing food sources for native species, and altering nesting sites for birds.
  7. Hurricane Vulnerability: In coastal areas, Australian Pines can exacerbate erosion as their shallow root systems are not as effective at stabilizing soil during hurricanes and storms compared to native vegetation. This can lead to increased property damage and environmental degradation.

These characteristics make Australian Pines problematic in ecosystems where they are not native, leading to their classification as an invasive species in various regions. Efforts to manage or eradicate them are often undertaken to restore native ecosystems and biodiversity.


@Grok
 
Diogenes said:
Australian Pines (Casuarina equisetifolia), also known as ironwood or she-oak, are considered invasive species in many parts of the world, including Florida in the United States, for several reasons:

  1. Rapid Growth and Spread: They grow quickly and can outcompete native vegetation for resources like sunlight, water, and nutrients. Their dense root systems and rapid growth rate allow them to dominate areas, reducing biodiversity by overshadowing and outcompeting other plant species.
  2. Allelopathy: Australian Pines produce chemicals that can inhibit the growth of other plants around them. This allelopathic effect can further reduce native plant diversity by altering soil conditions or directly affecting other plants' growth.
  3. Seed Dispersal: They produce a large number of seeds which are easily dispersed by wind and water. In areas like coastal Florida, seeds can be carried by ocean currents to new areas, expanding their range.
  4. Soil Changes: They can alter soil composition, making it less suitable for native species. Their root systems can change soil structure, and their leaf litter can change soil pH and nutrient availability, which might not favor local flora.
  5. Lack of Natural Predators: In regions where they are not native, Australian Pines often face fewer natural controls like pests or diseases that would keep their populations in check in their native Australia. This allows them to grow unchecked.
  6. Impact on Wildlife: While they do provide some habitat, the overall impact on local wildlife can be negative. They can degrade habitats for native animals by changing the structure and composition of ecosystems, reducing food sources for native species, and altering nesting sites for birds.
  7. Hurricane Vulnerability: In coastal areas, Australian Pines can exacerbate erosion as their shallow root systems are not as effective at stabilizing soil during hurricanes and storms compared to native vegetation. This can lead to increased property damage and environmental degradation.

These characteristics make Australian Pines problematic in ecosystems where they are not native, leading to their classification as an invasive species in various regions. Efforts to manage or eradicate them are often undertaken to restore native ecosystems and biodiversity.


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Pine trees are native to most parts of the world, dude, including the United States.
 
Into the Night said:
Several types of trees burn well, including eucalyptus and pine because of the oils they contain.

But they did not cause the fires. Arsonists did.

DEMOCRATS prohibiting clearing of brush caused the fire to easily spread into the trees (including both pine and eucalyptus).
DEMOCRATS removing and destroying water reservoirs caused the inability to fight the fire.
DEMOCRATS making it hard for fire insurers to conduct business is why they all left the SDTC, leaving many without fire insurance.
DEMOCRAT government run 'fire insurance' will welch. They can't nearly afford the losses sustained. The SDTC is already broke.

Then came the arsonists starting fires in the name of the Church of Global Warming and the Santa Ana winds (forecase, and presenting yet another opportunity for such arsonists.

And many homes were destroyed. Many were damaged.

And then came the looters...supported and aided by DEMOCRATS.

Ever wonder why people are fleeing the SDTC?
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I love made up stories.
 
The eucalypts spontaneously start fires. When heated the trees exude a highly-flammable gas which ignites into a fireball. This ignites the oil-soaked detritus at the tree's base . They've been doing it in Australia for millions of years.
The trees don't give a flying fuck who the government is.
 
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