APP - Are Police, Fire Departments Socialist?

Southern Man said:
On Andrew Wilcow yesterday the host presented what he claimed to be a slam-dunk argument against liberals assertions that police and fire departments are socialist, and accepted by conservatives, therefore other government programs, such as welfare, should also be accepted by conservatives. Wolcow's argument: Although the rich pay more taxes, thus pay more for police and fire services, at least they can access them when needed. They have no ability to access welfare.

What say ye?
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Corporate Welfare

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,989508,00.html

Off shore bank accounts
tax breaks/write offs not available to working/middle class
 
Originally Posted by Southern Man
On Andrew Wilcow yesterday the host presented what he claimed to be a slam-dunk argument against liberals assertions that police and fire departments are socialist, and accepted by conservatives, therefore other government programs, such as welfare, should also be accepted by conservatives. Wolcow's argument: Although the rich pay more taxes, thus pay more for police and fire services, at least they can access them when needed. They have no ability to access welfare.

What say ye?
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Corporate Welfare

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...989508,00.html

Off shore bank accounts
tax breaks/write offs not available to working/middle class
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Southern Man said:
"Corporate welfare" is just as wrong as regular welfare, Libby. Wouldn't you agree? :)
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:palm: I suggest you read the article I linked. It disproves your original contention here.
 
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Southern Man said:
Can't you put it in your own words? Is welfare bad or not?
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You made a reference....I make a reference. I read your material and respond accordingly. The difference seems your unwillingness to read any source material I use. Until you're willing to have an honest exchange, Southy, it's pointless to follow you up as you try to change what is being discussed every time you feel unable to logically and/or factually argue your stance.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You made a reference....I make a reference. I read your material and respond accordingly. The difference seems your unwillingness to read any source material I use. Until you're willing to have an honest exchange, Southy, it's pointless to follow you up as you try to change what is being discussed every time you feel unable to logically and/or factually argue your stance.
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Libby your stance is "tax breaks/write offs not available to working/middle class" and that's what I commented on. The chronology of the posts proves this. Grow a pair and answer the question.
 
Southern Man said:
Libby your stance is "tax breaks/write offs not available to working/middle class" and that's what I commented on. The chronology of the posts proves this. Grow a pair and answer the question.
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:palm: The chronology of the posts shows me responding to your opening post for the subject title of this thread. My first response contained three items, one of which had a link to an article. YOUR first response to me was regarding "corporate welfare", and NOT the third item on the list.

As the chronology of the posts shows, you REFUSE to read the material linked, which essentially disproves your original assertion that started this thread.

Stymied, you try to change the subject and NOW make a false claim that is NOT supported by the chronology of the posts...your attempt at mocking me through minicry falls flat as the evidence makes you out to be a liar.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=690900&postcount=83

Southy, you just don't have the intellectual capacity or maturity to carry on an honest debate with me....you need to grow the hell up, Southy.
 
Taichiliberal said:
:palm: The chronology of the posts shows me responding to your opening post for the subject title of this thread. My first response contained three items, one of which had a link to an article. YOUR first response to me was regarding "corporate welfare", and NOT the third item on the list.

As the chronology of the posts shows, you REFUSE to read the material linked, which essentially disproves your original assertion that started this thread.

Stymied, you try to change the subject and NOW make a false claim that is NOT supported by the chronology of the posts...your attempt at mocking me through minicry falls flat as the evidence makes you out to be a liar.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=690900&postcount=83

Southy, you just don't have the intellectual capacity or maturity to carry on an honest debate with me....you need to grow the hell up, Southy.
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Awesome. So is welfare bad or not?
 
Southern Man said:
On Andrew Wilcow yesterday the host presented what he claimed to be a slam-dunk argument against liberals assertions that police and fire departments are socialist, and accepted by conservatives, therefore other government programs, such as welfare, should also be accepted by conservatives. Wolcow's argument: Although the rich pay more taxes, thus pay more for police and fire services, at least they can access them when needed. They have no ability to access welfare.

What say ye?
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when a rich persons house burns down, they get the fire department. When a rich person becomes poor, they get welfare.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
The chronology of the posts shows me responding to your opening post for the subject title of this thread. My first response contained three items, one of which had a link to an article. YOUR first response to me was regarding "corporate welfare", and NOT the third item on the list.

As the chronology of the posts shows, you REFUSE to read the material linked, which essentially disproves your original assertion that started this thread.

Stymied, you try to change the subject and NOW make a false claim that is NOT supported by the chronology of the posts...your attempt at mocking me through minicry falls flat as the evidence makes you out to be a liar.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sho...0&postcount=83

Southy, you just don't have the intellectual capacity or maturity to carry on an honest debate with me....you need to grow the hell up, Southy.
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Southern Man said:
Awesome. So is welfare bad or not?
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And this is why a rational, honest debate with the Southern Man is not possible beyond a limited point, folks. As seen on this thread, the Southern Man lacks the maturity of admit when he's wrong, and constantly tries to change the subject of discussion when threatened with facts and logic that will prove the Southern Man wrong.

The Southern Man needs to grow the hell up....I'm done kicking his sorry butt here, and leave him to the last insipidly stubborn regurgitations that pass for Southern Man wit.
 
Taichiliberal said:
And this is why a rational, honest debate with the Southern Man is not possible beyond a limited point, folks. As seen on this thread, the Southern Man lacks the maturity of admit when he's wrong, and constantly tries to change the subject of discussion when threatened with facts and logic that will prove the Southern Man wrong.

The Southern Man needs to grow the hell up....I'm done kicking his sorry butt here, and leave him to the last insipidly stubborn regurgitations that pass for Southern Man wit.
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You got that, Folks??

He's done. :good4u:
 
Taichiliberal said:
And this is why a rational, honest debate with the Southern Man is not possible beyond a limited point, folks. As seen on this thread, the Southern Man lacks the maturity of admit when he's wrong, and constantly tries to change the subject of discussion when threatened with facts and logic that will prove the Southern Man wrong.

The Southern Man needs to grow the hell up....I'm done kicking his sorry butt here, and leave him to the last insipidly stubborn regurgitations that pass for Southern Man wit.
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Once more to clarify for our audience of millions where your drop off point was:

"Corporate welfare" is just as wrong as regular welfare, Libby. Wouldn't you agree?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And this is why a rational, honest debate with the Southern Man is not possible beyond a limited point, folks. As seen on this thread, the Southern Man lacks the maturity of admit when he's wrong, and constantly tries to change the subject of discussion when threatened with facts and logic that will prove the Southern Man wrong.

The Southern Man needs to grow the hell up....I'm done kicking his sorry butt here, and leave him to the last insipidly stubborn regurgitations that pass for Southern Man wit.
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Damn Yankee said:
Once more to clarify for our audience of millions where your drop off point was:

"Corporate welfare" is just as wrong as regular welfare, Libby. Wouldn't you agree?
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Once more to clue in this dimwitted Southern Man troll.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=690934&postcount=87

The Damn Yankee needs to grow the hell up and stop being The Southern Man's troll....I'm done kicking his sorry butt here, and leave him to the last insipidly stubborn regurgitations a'la' the Southern Man.[/
 
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bravo said:
Now if only sissy would ride off into the sunset for THE LAST TIME....:palm:
After reading any one of her redundant posts, all we can say is-->:gives:
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I'm done with Southy and his alter ego, you simpleton! Didn't say anything about you, did I?

Bravo, you constantly claim "who gives a fuck" when clearly YOU do, as you follow me around like a bitch in heat to impotently bark. You're contradicting yourself, my intellectually bankrupt Bravo...and you don't even realize it. :palm:
 
Taichiliberal said:
I'm done with Southy and his alter ego, you simpleton! Didn't say anything about you, did I?

Bravo, you constantly claim "who gives a fuck" when clearly YOU do, as you follow me around like a bitch in heat to impotently bark. You're contradicting yourself, my intellectually bankrupt Bravo...and you don't even realize it. :palm:
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:gives:
 
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