Ban on same sex marriage ruled unconstitutional by Texas Judge

[WinterBorn]

Are you looking for a tax break for your marriage now?

I already enjoy those tax breaks. But this is the direction you were taking when I insulted your wife.

If you will stick to the topic you will avoid those posts which raise your blood pressure and cause you such stress.

 

[Damocles]

Perhaps you should argue against my point of view instead of trying to attack motives that you assign to them.

Which is what I did. I simply restated it then pointed out why it was wrong.

 

[WinterBorn]

Most of the States had their own official Christian Sects when the Constitution was written, and held that status for many years afterward. Welcome to American History 101.

And why don't they still hold that status?

 

[DamnYankee]

I already enjoy those tax breaks. But this is the direction you were taking when I insulted your wife.

If you will stick to the topic you will avoid those posts which raise your blood pressure and cause you such stress.

My blood pressure remains a consistent low no matter what you post, while yours blew up so high you called my wife a slut. All I did was call yours looks like a boy, which is a fact. The first time I said that to you, Solitary, you blew up and became Cancel3.

 

[DamnYankee]

For ruling that explicitly christian governments are unconstitutional?

How about Judge Roy Moore having to remove the 10 commandment monument from the lobby of the Alabama State Courthouse?

Not the same argument. Try again, this time how State governments can't have an official religion.

 

[WinterBorn]

My blood pressure remains a consistent low no matter what you post, while yours blew up so high you called my wife a slut. All I did was call yours looks like a boy, which is a fact. The first time I said that to you, Solitary, you blew up and became Cancel3.

I have never blown up or even gotten upset here.

Lets stick to the topic, shall we?

Or have you found yourself without a valid argument, so you are forced to try and sidestep the actual topic?

 

[DamnYankee]

Which is what I did. I simply restated it then pointed out why it was wrong.

I keep talking about what the States can do, which is to define secular marriage.

 

[WinterBorn]

Not the same argument. Try again, this time how State governments can't have an official religion.

That is exactly what that was about. Roy Moore snuck that monument into the courthouse at night and refused to allow any other religion to display anything in the courthouse lobby.

It was about there not being a state religion. The 1st Amendment was quoted by the federal judge when he ordered the monument removed.

 

[DamnYankee]

I have never blown up or even gotten upset here.

Lets stick to the topic, shall we?

Or have you found yourself without a valid argument, so you are forced to try and sidestep the actual topic?

Solitary certainly has, and you are he. Its no coincidence that "winterborn" came on soon after "cancel3" blew up, and with the same vendetta, same place of residence, same fan of the same sports team, and with an intimate history of my previous dealings with "cancel3".

Of course, you can prove otherwise simply by posting a picture of you with that fine family of yours.

 

[WinterBorn]

I keep talking about what the States can do, which is to define secular marriage.

According to Loving v. Virginia, the federal government can make certain criteria of secular marriages illegal. So, in point of fact, they can help determine the definition of secular marriage.

Not so long ago in many states in the south, interracial marriages were illegal.

It was not through the good graces of these southern state governments that this was made illegal. It was through a US Supreme Court decision.

 

[DamnYankee]

That is exactly what that was about. Roy Moore snuck that monument into the courthouse at night and refused to allow any other religion to display anything in the courthouse lobby.

It was about there not being a state religion. The 1st Amendment was quoted by the federal judge when he ordered the monument removed.

You obviously have the facts of the case confused. How do you explain North Carolina's Constitution? It clearly states that NC is a Christian State.

 

[WinterBorn]

Solitary certainly has, and you are he. Its no coincidence that "winterborn" came on soon after "cancel3" blew up, and with the same vendetta, same place of residence, same fan of the same sports team, and with an intimate history of my previous dealings with "cancel3".

Of course, you can prove otherwise simply by posting a picture of you with that fine family of yours.

Stick to the topic at hand. And give up on this obsession with getting pictures of my family.

From the same state, and a fan of one of two major football teams in that state. Wow, what overwhelming evidence. And the only details I know about are ones that are recorded here for all to see.

 

[DamnYankee]

According to Loving v. Virginia, the federal government can make certain criteria of secular marriages illegal. So, in point of fact, they can help determine the definition of secular marriage.

Not so long ago in many states in the south, interracial marriages were illegal.

It was not through the good graces of these southern state governments that this was made illegal. It was through a US Supreme Court decision.

Race is not the same as sex. Sorry.

 

[DamnYankee]

Stick to the topic at hand. And give up on this obsession with getting pictures of my family.

From the same state, and a fan of one of two major football teams in that state. Wow, what overwhelming evidence. And the only details I know about are ones that are recorded here for all to see.

Then post a picture of yourself.

Lots of folks aren't sports fans at all. Lot of sports fans don't like football. Lots of football fans don't like college ball, and lots of them don't like the Crimson Tide. Lots of folks who like the Crimson Tide don't identify themselves with them on a message board. I can do the math on this if you insist to show that chances of this multiplied by the other factors makes the probability of you being Solitary very, very high: a preponderance of evidence.

 

[WinterBorn]

You obviously have the facts of the case confused. How do you explain North Carolina's Constitution? It clearly states that NC is a Christian State.

Because NC has had the good sense not to try and discriminate based on religions.

I am certainly not confused.

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/religion/glsrthmre111802opn.pdf

"If all Chief Justice Moore had done were to emphasize the Ten Commandments' historical and educational importance... or their importance as a model code for good citizenship... this court would have a much different case before it. But the Chief Justice did not limit himself to this; he went far, far beyond. He installed a two-and-a-half ton monument in the most prominent place in a government building, managed with dollars from all state taxpayers, with the specific purpose and effect of establishing a permanent recognition of the 'sovereignty of God,' the Judeo-Christian God, over all citizens in this country, regardless of each taxpaying citizen's individual personal beliefs or lack thereof. To this, the Establishment Clause says no."


So the federal judge did, in fact, rule against Roy Moore based on the 1st Amendment.

 

[WinterBorn]

Then post a picture of yourself.

Lots of folks aren't sports fans at all. Lot of sports fans don't like football. Lots of football fans don't like college ball, and lots of them don't like the Crimson Tide. Lots of folks who like the Crimson Tide don't identify themselves with them on a message board. I can do the math on this if you insist to show that chances of this multiplied by the other factors makes the probability of you being Solitary very, very high: a preponderance of evidence.

Total bullshit. There are 92,000 people coming to home games. More would come if there were more seats. I suppose all of them, except Solitary and me, are from out of state? lmao

Stick with the topic. My picture, my being a Crimson Tide fan, and my residence have nothing to do with the topic.

 

[WinterBorn]

Race is not the same as sex. Sorry.

I didn't say it was. I showed that the federal government can, and does, help to define marriage in various states.

And it disputes your comment "I keep talking about what the States can do, which is to define secular marriage" quite nicely.

 

[DamnYankee]

Because NC has had the good sense not to try and discriminate based on religions.

I am certainly not confused.

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/religion/glsrthmre111802opn.pdf

"If all Chief Justice Moore had done were to emphasize the Ten Commandments' historical and educational importance... or their importance as a model code for good citizenship... this court would have a much different case before it. But the Chief Justice did not limit himself to this; he went far, far beyond. He installed a two-and-a-half ton monument in the most prominent place in a government building, managed with dollars from all state taxpayers, with the specific purpose and effect of establishing a permanent recognition of the 'sovereignty of God,' the Judeo-Christian God, over all citizens in this country, regardless of each taxpaying citizen's individual personal beliefs or lack thereof. To this, the Establishment Clause says no."


So the federal judge did, in fact, rule against Roy Moore based on the 1st Amendment.

You just argued my case for me. Thanks.

 

[DamnYankee]

Total bullshit. There are 92,000 people coming to home games. More would come if there were more seats. I suppose all of them, except Solitary and me, are from out of state? lmao

Stick with the topic. My picture, my being a Crimson Tide fan, and my residence have nothing to do with the topic.

Then post a picture of yourself.

 

[DamnYankee]

I didn't say it was. I showed that the federal government can, and does, help to define marriage in various states.

And it disputes your comment "I keep talking about what the States can do, which is to define secular marriage" quite nicely.

Wrong-o.