Barr confirms to Congress & the American people He's investigating the investigation

[Legion]

Mueller—the head of the OIC-- sent him a letter stating his objections.

What did the letter say?

 

[JPF]

It’s apparent to me you didn’t bother to listen to Barr’s full answer to the question as I did watching the hearing live.

Barr’s answer was he wasn’t aware of any objections to his, (Barr’s), 4 page summery of Mueller’s report, Muller’s letter complained about MEDIA COVERAGE OF BARR’S 4 PAGE SUMMERY. Barr testified that he had called Mueller and ask him if his, (Barr’s) 4 page summery was inaccurate, and Mueller said no!

I’m taking notice that since that public display during the hearing was seen nationwide and certainly Mueller himself surely saw the exchange between Barr and the Democrat questioner that to this day he, (Mueller), has remained silent about the issue. Sure as hell, if he, (Mueller), believes Barr was lying to the Congress he would have made his opinion public by now, don’t you think?

BTW, Congress has the authority to impeach Barr for lying to the Congress. When shall we expect those hearings to begin?

Your characterizations are, of course, inaccurate.

As for the impeachment of the AG, I would think it would not happen before the election. Now if the Dems take the Senate but not the Oval…it may be more likely.

 

[Robo]

Your characterizations are, of course, inaccurate.

As for the impeachment of the AG, I would think it would not happen before the election. Now if the Dems take the Senate but not the Oval…it may be more likely.

By what evidence do you believe in a roaring Trump economy and a Barr investigation indicting and prosecuting Obama’s Justice Department, FBI and Intelligence agencies top cops environment a single Democrat will be elected even as a dog catcher in a Chicago ghetto?

 

[JPF]

By what evidence do you believe in a roaring Trump economy and a Barr investigation indicting and prosecuting Obama’s Justice Department, FBI and Intelligence agencies top cops environment a single Democrat will be elected even as a dog catcher in a Chicago ghetto?

We shall see

 

[Robo]

We shall see

Just exactly what do you believe all of this Barr hate & contempt of Congress hysteria coming from Democrats on the House Judiciary committee is all about?

Let me help you out! Democrats are shitting their pants so fearful of what’s coming from the Barr investigation & the Inspector General’s report soon to blow the top off of FISA abuse, unmasking Americans & FBI & CIA spying on the Trump campaign & The Donald himself. That’s what the Contempt hail marry is all about & the outrageous demands the Democrat committee Chairman is trying to shove down Barr’s throat. It’s the hysterical agenda of a Democrat mob of cowards & slime balls screaming with their hair on fire trying to trash Barr’s reputation and villianize him in the public eye. Stevie Wonder can see through this neo-communist scam.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

FISA abuse, unmasking Americans & FBI & CIA spying on the Trump campaign ...

But what if Barr, in spite of all Trump's hopes, is unable to indict anyone - except perhaps on technicalities - because the "spying", as you call it, was justified on the facts available at the time?

After all, there was a Russian attempt to subvert the election (even Trump admits that now, I think) and some of his associates were in contact with Russian agents. Should the FBI have ignored that because Trump was so well known as a beacon of truth and honor? What do you think?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

It’s apparent to me you didn’t bother to listen to Barr’s full answer to the question as I did watching the hearing live.

Barr’s answer was he wasn’t aware of any objections to his, (Barr’s), 4 page summery of Mueller’s report, Muller’s letter complained about MEDIA COVERAGE OF BARR’S 4 PAGE SUMMERY. Barr testified that he had called Mueller and ask him if his, (Barr’s) 4 page summery was inaccurate, and Mueller said no!

I’m taking notice that since that public display during the hearing was seen nationwide and certainly Mueller himself surely saw the exchange between Barr and the Democrat questioner that to this day he, (Mueller), has remained silent about the issue. Sure as hell, if he, (Mueller), believes Barr was lying to the Congress he would have made his opinion public by now, don’t you think?

BTW, Congress has the authority to impeach Barr for lying to the Congress. When shall we expect those hearings to begin?

You should go read the letter.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...eller-letter-william-barr-20190501-story.html


This doesn't look like a complaint about the media.

As we stated in our meeting of March 5 and reiterated to the Department early in the afternoon of March 24, the introductions and executive summaries of our two-volume report accurately summarize this Office's work and conclusions. The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office's work and conclusions.

It was the failure of Barr's summary to capture the context, nature and substance that was the cause of any public confusion. The letter also included enclosures that Mueller felt would better explain his work and asked that Barr release those "at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation."

In fact, Mueller never once mentions the media in his letter. It is Barr's later testimony about a telephone call with Mueller that only brings up the media coverage as the reason.

Whether Barr's testimony is perjury is hard to say but it certainly rises to the level of "lack of candor" for which McCabe was fired. For Barr to have answered with complete candor he would have mentioned Mueller's letter. His failure to bring it up shows a lack of candor. Can he argue that Mueller is not part of Mueller's staff? That is certainly a "depends on the definition of 'is'" argument. Then when Barr later testifies that the snitty letter was written by staff it further undermines his argument because no one would argue that Mueller's staff is not part of Mueller's staff. Is the AG subject to the same standards as the FBI when it comes to professional conduct? I would suggest that the IG look into Barr's statement and make a ruling.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

By what evidence do you believe in a roaring Trump economy

We can only wait and see what happens with China trade negotiations. If they fail, the markets are going to tank further and predictions are it will take 2% of GDP growth and possibly cause global recession. That won't be a roaring economy in a year.

and a Barr investigation indicting and prosecuting Obama’s Justice Department, FBI and Intelligence agencies top cops

Wishful thinking doesn't a crime make. The evidence presented gives a reasonable excuse for the investigation to be started. I doubt any reasonable prosecutor would take the case and judges will always give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt. Any indictment would more likely lead to sanctioning the prosecutorial attempt for bringing such a weak case than convictions of any top officials.

environment a single Democrat will be elected even as a dog catcher in a Chicago ghetto?

Chicago doesn't elect dog catchers but once again your wishful thinking isn't facts and facts are what matter. If Barr attempted a prosecution on the flimsy claim that the FBI was acting politically there would be a greater chance of a rather large settlement in the civil suit for malicious prosecution than there is of anyone being convicted.

You may not have noticed but McCabe was let go over a year ago and his case was supposedly given to prosecutors at that time for possible indictment and nothing has come of that. Instead, the DoJ has refused to turn over any documents related to the firing to McCabe as required under FOIA when McCabe's lawyers requested them. The only coverup seems to be on the part of the Trump's DoJ's retaliation against top Obama FBI officials. McCabe announced a month or so ago he will be filing a civil lawsuit for wrongful termination once he finally saw the IG report.

The DoJ has refused to release the documents to the public in an ongoing lawsuit over them. The latest filing was just this month, over a year since the initial requiest under FOIA. And conservatives complained when it took 6 months for the Obama administration to release records under FOIA.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/lawsuit/crew-sues-doj-over-andrew-mccabe-firing-records/

 

[JPF]

Just exactly what do you believe all of this Barr hate & contempt of Congress hysteria coming from Democrats on the House Judiciary committee is all about?

Let me help you out! Democrats are shitting their pants so fearful of what’s coming from the Barr investigation & the Inspector General’s report soon to blow the top off of FISA abuse, unmasking Americans & FBI & CIA spying on the Trump campaign & The Donald himself. That’s what the Contempt hail marry is all about & the outrageous demands the Democrat committee Chairman is trying to shove down Barr’s throat. It’s the hysterical agenda of a Democrat mob of cowards & slime balls screaming with their hair on fire trying to trash Barr’s reputation and villianize him in the public eye. Stevie Wonder can see through this neo-communist scam.

The AG was scheduled to appear before the House Committee. He refused. So he’s being held in contempt. Not exactly rocket science. I would expect it to happen to anyone refusing to show up.

 

[Robo]

But what if Barr, in spite of all Trump's hopes, is unable to indict anyone - except perhaps on technicalities - because the "spying", as you call it, was justified on the facts available at the time?

If the spying was justified on the pretense that Russia was attempting to meddle in the Presidential campaigns, then it would be standard FBI practice to inform the candidate, would it not? Was Trump informed by the FBI? NO! I think there’s evidence that the FBI attempted to “set up” Trump campaign people to attempt to draw them into FBI set up collusion with people acting as Russians with dirt on Hillary and thereby make it appear Trump people had actual connections with Russians. The Trump Tower and Donald Trump Jr. Was also such an FBI prepared sting. I think that’s about to be uncovered. All of those people involved were FBI & or CIA operatives. “WHAT IF” that’s what is about to be exposed? “WHAT IF” that’s the Strzok & Page “insurance policy” their text were all about?

After all, there was a Russian attempt to subvert the election (even Trump admits that now, I think) and some of his associates were in contact with Russian agents. Should the FBI have ignored that because Trump was so well known as a beacon of truth and honor? What do you think?

Trump should have been informed if the Russians were attempting to subvert his campaign and his people were actually believed to be covert suspects involved in Russia’s meddling. The only reason they wouldn’t inform Trump is if they had evidence Trump himself were knowingly involved, (no such evidence has ever been produced), or they were attempting to sting the Trump campaign and invent fake evidence they could use against Trump’s Presidency should he accidently win the election. “THE STRZOK/PAGE INSURANCE POLICY!!!!!!!!”

 

[Robo]

You should go read the letter.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...eller-letter-william-barr-20190501-story.html


This doesn't look like a complaint about the media.


It was the failure of Barr's summary to capture the context, nature and substance that was the cause of any public confusion. The letter also included enclosures that Mueller felt would better explain his work and asked that Barr release those "at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation."

In fact, Mueller never once mentions the media in his letter. It is Barr's later testimony about a telephone call with Mueller that only brings up the media coverage as the reason.

Exactly! THE TELEPHONE CALL between Barr and Mueller. Not only did Barr testify that Mueller’s complaint was actually about the media’s coverage of his, (Barr’s) 4 page summary of Mueller’s report, Barr also testified that he ask Mueller on that phone call if his, (Barr’s), summary was “INACCURATE” and Barr testified that Mueller’s reply was “NO.” Barr also testified that Mueller ask/suggested that Barr submit 6 pages in addition to said summary contained in the volume Two about obstruction. Barr apparently declined because he already intended to deliver the entire redacted report to the Congress within a few days which would contain the 6 pages un-redacted that Mueller thought should be exposed to the Congress and the people. Let us present ALL of Barr’s testimony, shall we? Let’s not forget that Barr was under NO obligation to deliver any of the Mueller report to anybody by law. The man bent over backward to make the maximum amount of the Mueller report public, seems to his regret now that Democrats have pounced on Mueller’s bone he threw to the Democrats in Congress on the “OBSTRUCTION” HE MUELLER COULDN’T INDICT ANYBODY FOR. And the junkyard rabid mad dog Democrats have pounced all over it simply to prolong the Trump hate and persecution.

Whether Barr's testimony is perjury is hard to say but it certainly rises to the level of "lack of candor" for which McCabe was fired.

The easiest way to find out if Barr lied, is to bring Mueller before the Congress and ask him for his testimony relative to the letter he sent to Barr and the proceeding phone call before we call Barr a liar, don’t you think?

For Barr to have answered with complete candor he would have mentioned Mueller's letter.

Barr voluntarily came before the Senate committee to answer questions, not to offer red meat to a fucking gang of mad dog rabid Democrats on that committee who’s hair was still on fire because the Mueller report gave them squat!

His failure to bring it up shows a lack of candor.

His brilliance to answer only what was ask of him proves he’s one smart cookie!

I would suggest that the IG look into Barr's statement and make a ruling.

I don’t believe Inspector’s General have any power to make rulings, their only power is to investigate, deliver evidence and “offer opinions of probable crimes to be indicted.” That’s the same powers the Congress has. They can’t indict anybody they can only recommend indictments to the AG. Barr is the AG!!!!!!

 

[Robo]

The AG was scheduled to appear before the House Committee. He refused. So he’s being held in contempt. Not exactly rocket science. I would expect it to happen to anyone refusing to show up.

Actually, I do think he was held in contempt for refusing to deliver a totally un-redacted copy of the Mueller report to the gang of junkyard mad dog rabid Democrats which would be a violation of the law. The contempt citation is a laughable joke. What happened to Obama's AG Erick Holder's contempt of Congress citation? SQUAT!!!!! Let's see if Barr's will be any different.

 

[JPF]

Actually, I do think he was held in contempt for refusing to deliver a totally un-redacted copy of the Mueller report to the gang of junkyard mad dog rabid Democrats which would be a violation of the law. The contempt citation is a laughable joke. What happened to Obama's AG Erick Holder's contempt of Congress citation? SQUAT!!!!! Let's see if Barr's will be any different.

So you thought Holder's actions were proper? If not...how do you think Barr's actions are proper?

 

[Robo]

We can only wait and see what happens with China trade negotiations. If they fail, the markets are going to tank further and predictions are it will take 2% of GDP growth and possibly cause global recession. That won't be a roaring economy in a year.

Well, hope springs eternal especially with Democrats hoping America will go into a recession. That’s why I can’t think of any Democrat as a patriot. That’s why I never vote for a Democrat, EVER!!!!!

Wishful thinking doesn't a crime make. The evidence presented gives a reasonable excuse for the investigation to be started. I doubt any reasonable prosecutor would take the case and judges will always give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt. Any indictment would more likely lead to sanctioning the prosecutorial attempt for bringing such a weak case than convictions of any top officials.

How confident of you to believe there’s such a WEAK CASE before even the IG report gets delivered and Barr’s investigation gets up to speed. The last IG report hardly presented a weak case against McCabe, Strzok & Page.

Chicago doesn't elect dog catchers but once again your wishful thinking isn't facts and facts are what matter.

What FACTS are your HOPES based on? I think there’s a truck load of facts for me to base my hopes on.

If Barr attempted a prosecution on the flimsy claim that the FBI was acting politically there would be a greater chance of a rather large settlement in the civil suit for malicious prosecution than there is of anyone being convicted.

Only in leftist lala land would a coup-de-qua to prevent a candidate from becoming President of the United States and frame him for an invented crime after he was elected President be a “civil case.” It sure as hell looks like mocho felonies to me friend!!!!!

You may not have noticed but McCabe was let go over a year ago and his case was supposedly given to prosecutors at that time for possible indictment and nothing has come of that. Instead, the DoJ has refused to turn over any documents related to the firing to McCabe as required under FOIA when McCabe's lawyers requested them. The only coverup seems to be on the part of the Trump's DoJ's retaliation against top Obama FBI officials. McCabe announced a month or so ago he will be filing a civil lawsuit for wrongful termination once he finally saw the IG report.

I’m not worried that McCabe’s name and prosecution won’t come up again. There’s an investigation into the whole banana just starting and McCabe may well be charged with more multiple crimes. He’s likely being squeezed at president to cop a plea to drop a dime on the rest of the gang..

 

[Robo]

So you thought Holder's actions were proper? If not...how do you think Barr's actions are proper?

Holder refused to deliver documents into Fast & Furious where an American border petrol guard was murdered. Barr was held in contempt for refusing to illegally deliver a totally un-redacted Muller report to the entire Congress which is a crime. The two cases are apples & oranges!!!!!!

 

[JPF]

Holder refused to deliver documents into Fast & Furious where an American border petrol guard was murdered. Barr was held in contempt for refusing to illegally deliver a totally un-redacted Muller report to the entire Congress which is a crime. The two cases are apples & oranges!!!!!!

So is that a yes or no?

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The Trump Tower and Donald Trump Jr. Was also such an FBI prepared sting. I think that’s about to be uncovered. All of those people involved were FBI & or CIA operatives.

The Russian participants in the Trump Tower meeting were:

Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer best known for working to overturn President Obama's sanctions against Russia (the Magnitsky Act) and for defending Russian clients against money laundering charges in the US.

Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer suspected of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence (he denies it).

Ike Kaveladze, senior vice president of the real estate company owned by Russian oligarch and Trump associate Aras Agalarov.


Which of these do you think were working for the FBI?

 

[JPF]

If the spying was justified on the pretense that Russia was attempting to meddle in the Presidential campaigns, then it would be standard FBI practice to inform the candidate, would it not? Was Trump informed by the FBI? NO! I think there’s evidence that the FBI attempted to “set up” Trump campaign people to attempt to draw them into FBI set up collusion with people acting as Russians with dirt on Hillary and thereby make it appear Trump people had actual connections with Russians. The Trump Tower and Donald Trump Jr. Was also such an FBI prepared sting. I think that’s about to be uncovered. All of those people involved were FBI & or CIA operatives. “WHAT IF” that’s what is about to be exposed? “WHAT IF” that’s the Strzok & Page “insurance policy” their text were all about?



Trump should have been informed if the Russians were attempting to subvert his campaign and his people were actually believed to be covert suspects involved in Russia’s meddling. The only reason they wouldn’t inform Trump is if they had evidence Trump himself were knowingly involved, (no such evidence has ever been produced), or they were attempting to sting the Trump campaign and invent fake evidence they could use against Trump’s Presidency should he accidently win the election. “THE STRZOK/PAGE INSURANCE POLICY!!!!!!!!”

His son had a meeting with those "subverting" his campaign? The conspiracy theorists who believe this make the 9/11 truthers look sane.

 

[Robo]

The Russian participants in the Trump Tower meeting were:

Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer best known for working to overturn President Obama's sanctions against Russia (the Magnitsky Act) and for defending Russian clients against money laundering charges in the US.

Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet intelligence officer suspected of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence (he denies it).

Ike Kaveladze, senior vice president of the real estate company owned by Russian oligarch and Trump associate Aras Agalarov.


Which of these do you think were working for the FBI?

All of them! You know different because?

 

[Robo]

His son had a meeting with those "subverting" his campaign? The conspiracy theorists who believe this make the 9/11 truthers look sane.

How much time and money did Mueller spend trying to entrap Donald Jr. because of that tower meeting? Do you understand how a sting works?