Bernie thinks Medicare for all will reduce fraud

you're right, they don't go into debt; they can just die for it, fuck em.

Entitled to what?

Spare me your bullshit libertarian rhetoric; it's not about entitlement you fucking plebe, it's about humanitarianism and caring for our own.

You fucking people are sickening demagogues.

^^Triggered moron. :laugh:

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Nobody says healthcare should be free. That is a false argument. It should be paid for by our taxes. Other nations show that we can cover everyone and save over 50 percent of the costs. It would take the cost and administration off the backs of our corporations. That would make them more competitive with countries that do not put healthcare costs on companies. It would eliminate the gatekeepers that stand between you and the healthcare you paid for. Insurance companies fight your care to increase profits. They bribe politicians and have enormous lobbying powers. They merely extract profits from healthcare.
Our healthcare is a mess that could be fixed if rightys were not so susceptible to corporate propaganda.
 
you're right, they don't go into debt; they can just die for it, fuck em.

Entitled to what?

Spare me your bullshit libertarian rhetoric; it's not about entitlement you fucking plebe, it's about humanitarianism and caring for our own.

You fucking people are sickening demagogues.

Which occurred prior to socialized medicine.
You are badly confused by cause and effect.
 
As a medicaid provider I can tell you for a fact that private ins. companies police fraud far better than gubmint does. And they do so because of their profit motive. Makes sense.
and as long as there is a profit motive for providers (they don't work for free) there will always be fraud.
 
Nobody says healthcare should be free. That is a false argument. It should be paid for by our taxes.

It is FREE to those who would vote for and elect dishonest hacks from the Democratic Party of the Jackass. Almost 50% of Americans pay nothing in taxes.

Other nations show that we can cover everyone and save over 50 percent of the costs.

That is a LIE and it is LAME. The other cost they never seem to account for is the cost of waiting for care we take for granted here in the US. Sometimes at the cost of lives.

It would take the cost and administration off the backs of our corporations. That would make them more competitive with countries that do not put healthcare costs on companies.

Another LIE; our corporations are not burdened by competition due to health insurance. They are burdened by the massive cost of regulation and tax collecting on behalf of Governments.

It would eliminate the gatekeepers that stand between you and the healthcare you paid for.

LIE and LAME; it would create a new and more massive new gatekeeper called the Government which would include long wait times and rationing.

Insurance companies fight your care to increase profits.

Why are profits a bad thing? How do you think corporations pay their employees?

They bribe politicians and have enormous lobbying powers. They merely extract profits from healthcare.

More lies. I doubt you can post without lying.

Our healthcare is a mess that could be fixed if rightys were not so susceptible to corporate propaganda.

Our healthcare is only a mess as it relates the abomination of Obamacare. The only ones promulgating propaganda are Marxist liars like you.
 
People dying because they cannot afford healthcare is not humane. It is barbaric for profit supremacy.

No one is dying as a result of the cost of healthcare lying buffoon. They are dying in nations that ration their care under Government auspices. Moron.
 
As a medicaid provider I can tell you for a fact that private ins. companies police fraud far better than gubmint does. And they do so because of their profit motive. Makes sense.
and as long as there is a profit motive for providers (they don't work for free) there will always be fraud.

^^The TRUTH! :clap: The notion that the Government bureaucracy can police itself are laughable and false.
 
Had the same profit motive prior to socialized medicine.
Whats barbaric is the government. Thats what changed.

Government is simply representatives of the public. Your bias and ignorance is showing.

The profit motive existed prior but will not exist after single payer is instituted.

Not everything (or everyone) is driven by wont for money, which is the problem with your position against single payer.
 
Government is simply representatives of the public. Your bias and ignorance is showing.

..full of corruption, waste and incompetence. The notion they could manage and run healthcare efficiently can only be expressed by low IQ leftist morons like you.

The profit motive existed prior but will not exist after single payer is instituted.

That is true; there will be ZERO motive to provide good healthcare and service once the idiots in Government take over. Dunce.

Not everything (or everyone) is driven by wont for money, which is the problem with your position against single payer.

EVERYTHING is driven by a profit/money motive. However, for Government hacks it is also about power over others. You dumb Fascist.
 
Government is simply representatives of the public. Your bias and ignorance is showing.

The profit motive existed prior but will not exist after single payer is instituted.

Not everything (or everyone) is driven by wont for money, which is the problem with your position against single payer.

What will stop it ?
Think all those docs and therapists etc are willing to be slaves ?
 
We have always had fraud in medical care. We have had fraud bigly in medical insurance. Scott in Florida was head of a =company that had the biggest fine for Medicare fraud of all time. The people of Florida elected him governor.

That is why we don't want Medicare for everybody--it only increases the fraud.
 
The profit motive existed prior but will not exist after single payer is instituted.

Medicare is single payer and there is plenty of profit motive--hospitals, doctors, nurses, medical clinics, medical supply and equipment manufacturers...........
 
What will stop it ?
Think all those docs and therapists etc are willing to be slaves ?

Oh come on, spare us the fear mongering. They will still be well paid. Perhaps if you fucking louts on the right actually gave a shit about people you'd feel differently.

No one is saying doctors and nurses should not be paid a ransom for their services.

BUT. Hospital mergers and acquisitions continuously inflates the cost of care for insurance providers by strong arming them into agreeing with larger payouts for routine services. Undeniable fact.

Without a UNIFIED front against this sort of graft we will NEVER control costs; until you fucking guys ADDRESS this part of the problem you will get nowhere closer to understanding what's going on in HC.
 
Medicare is single payer and there is plenty of profit motive--hospitals, doctors, nurses, medical clinics, medical supply and equipment manufacturers...........

Imbecile, those are COSTS, not profits.

You're uneducated on HC.

Go elsewhere.
 
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