Trudeau is a p.i.a. - but they re a small military and can't run escorted patrol craft thru the S. China Sea/
They aren't really a Pacific power.
but they are reliable. they even bombed Libya for us unlike Russia and Germany
Bernie wins New Hampshire!
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They aren't really a Pacific power.
but they are reliable. they even bombed Libya for us unlike Russia and Germany
Just as I thought...........Blame Blacks.........
How many of those expected Blacks votes were suppressed?
Besides that, why should Blacks be running to the polls to vote for the same racist BS coming from the right?
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When they come here, are they enrolling in Aetna or Blue Cross/Blue Shield, or are they paying cash and not enrolling in health insurance?
Life is Golden
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I assume they are paying cash. The question is, if their medical care is so superior, why would they come here at all?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
lv was trying to squeegy my windshield with home brew.
OK, so if the Democrats didn't lose because of their candidates, why did they lose in 2010, 2014, and 2016?
What a douchebag.
You said you've worked at the same company since you were 8.
Cradle to grave beggar. No wonder he supports Bernie.
Why do Americans fly to Europe or go to Canada for health care, like Rand Paul did? Because the specialists are everywhere.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Things like elections involve complex issues. Winners win and losers lose for a myriad of different reasons, some of them intertwined with other reasons. But because, as has oft been said, "all politics is local", meaning each district has its own local issues, one would have to research every contest in question and examine all the facts and factors involved.
You are the one making the specious, overly-simplistic claim that the only reason Democrats lost majorities during those election years is because they weren't far enough over to the progressive, looney left. So it's up to you to do all that research and post the conclusions and the links to back them up.
Until you do that and prove your point, I will continue to maintain that anyone who thinks that the Dems lost majorities just because their candidates weren't liberal enough, is either a naive simpleton or just another disingenuous agenda pusher.
Let me add though, that in some cases and in some races, what you claim may very well be true. But I seriously doubt that across the board and in dozens of Congressional districts across the nation, it was simply a matter of what you claim.
AAMOF, I could just as easily claim that some of the seats lost by Dems in those election years were lost because the Dem candidates who ran were TOO liberal.
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Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
I've never claimed it was just blacks. I have said more than once ol' BS himself and his hijacking of the DNC apparatus for his own selfish political ends was largely to blame for dividing the party when we needed unity the most. I have also blamed blue-collar white rubes in Mi, Pa and Wi for throwing a temper tantrum and withholding their vote or voting for trump out of spite for what they stupidly believe was an injustice to ol' BS.
Either way, your typical and tired old race-hustling bullshit falls flat on its face as always.
Keep trying though, everyone finds your weak shit amusing.
But the 2016 election wasn't local, and Clinton lost it.
Why do you think that is? Because of her as a candidate? What about her as a candidate caused her to lose?
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Is what you exclaimed when you opened up your friend's Christmas gift to you last year.
Did he use his extraordinary designer skillz to custom decorate it with little beads, baubles and jewels?
So...we had elections in 2018 that saw a Democratic wave. At the forefront of those campaigns was holding Donald Trump accountable and not "moderation". Every single freshman Democrat from 2018 voted to impeach Trump. Nearly every single freshman Democrat from 2018 voted for and/or sponsored the Green New Deal resolution in the House. Nearly every single freshman Democrat from 2018 voted for HR1, and came out in support of M4A.
Progressives have a long track record of victory that moderates simply don't have.
If people liked "moderation", we'd have a Democratic Senate and Clinton would be President.
So when I asked you why you thought the Democrats lost in 2010, 2014, and 2016, you word saladed your way through a response that said absolutely nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
You tried to excuse it as "politics are local", except the 2016 election was very NOT "local", and Clinton lost.
The reason they lost was because of low turnout. And why was turnout so low? What was the reason you think turnout was low enough for the GOP to steal it?
Could it have to do with the fact that "moderation", by definition isn't enthusiasm or excitement? Because I sure as hell do.
So when you screech you want "moderation" what you're really saying is you want to suppress the vote so that your vote means more, and therefore people must accommodate you.
If turnout was 70%, let's say, your voice would be less important and not one people would accommodate because the electorate is larger. I think that is what drives you the most crazy. The fact that your status is solidified by dampened enthusiasm and excitement, and it is diminished by increased enthusiasm and excitement.
"Moderation" is another way to suppress voting.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Still can't back up your claims with facts, can you?
I've already explained to you why Clinton lost, but you continue to ignore it, so I'm not going to waste anymore time on it.
Get back to me when you've got something worth discussing.