Billionaire Ray Dalio: Capitalism basically is not working for the majority of people

Kacper said:
1% a year is not unreasonable or burdensome when inflation is higher than 1%. Like I said, you pay a lot worse in other places.
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But because of social programs, such as universal health care and affordable college, living standards are still higher in European and East Asian Liberal Socialist countries than in America.
 
Kacper said:
It is consumerism not capitalism that is the problem. Instead of maximizing their wealth, people maximize their things. To get the most things for a buck, they use the internet to look for the cheapest price on these things which then feeds into a whole spiraling situation regarding velocity and pooling.
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Without consumerism why have capitalism? I think you missed the mark here. It really is education. Kids these days are graduating more with indoctrination than they are education. Many cannot read or write past the 6th grade and forget it when it comes to economics.

Math? We are 14th in the world? When you raise kids based on how to feel good and not get their feelings hurt, you're not going to get a lot of ambitious go getters trying to invent the next BIG thing.
 
StoneByStone said:
People have to look for the cheapest price because Capitalism creates a society where most people don't have enough disposable income.
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Yet, we have far more disposable income now than we did back when manufacturing was at its peak. We also spend a lot less time working.
 
StoneByStone said:
The overall living standards are improving everywhere. We could look at North Korea and say things have gotten better there, dictatorships must be great.
To know what works, we need to compare countries, and examine individual issues. I would say that America's living standards would grow faster with Liberal Socialism.
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What is this "liberal Socialism" you speak of? How would it be better?
 
Nordberg said:
The wealth gap is worse now than during the Gilded Age. It is accomplished through tax breaks and laws that permit them to cheat. Holding the min. wage down for so long added to the problem. The wealthy used their money and power to continuously erode the structures that kept America from being a klepocracy. Nothing wong with capitalism that a lot of serious regiulation and laws cannot fix.
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So the gilded age was better? STFU you willful idiot.
 
StoneByStone said:
Yes, but if you're going to say living standards went up in America, so Capitalism is good, you can also say living standards went up in North Korea, so dictatorships are good.

North Korea's command economy is more similar to America's Capitalism than it is to South Korea's economy which is Liberal Socialist, not Capitalist.
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North Korea's economy is not similar to "America's capitalism" and south Korea's economy is not "Liberal Socialist".

It just sounds like you're grabbing these out of thin air.
 
Truth Detector said:
Yet, we have far more disposable income now than we did back when manufacturing was at its peak. We also spend a lot less time working.
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True, but it's still not as much as it should be. The fact that 40% of people don't have $400 for an emergency is a big problem.
We also have to be careful with statistics relating to "disposable income," since it can be defined subjectively.
And the wealth gap hasn't been this bad since the thirties.
 
StoneByStone said:
But the government will be able to do that if we stopped wasting so much money on foreign wars and occupations, and taxed the 1% at higher rates.
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We don't have wars of occupation. What is wrong with liberals on the left? America doesn't start wars; we end them. The Defense budget amounts to 15% of the total spent and as a percent of GDP is at all time lows.

Once again, you are barking at the wrong door and lack facts.
 
StoneByStone said:
Yes, but if you're going to say living standards went up in America, so Capitalism is good, you can also say living standards went up in North Korea, so dictatorships are good.
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You can say something like that, but it would be stupid and false. Seriously?
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StoneByStone said:
North Korea's command economy is more similar to America's Capitalism
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Another painfully stupid claim and patently false.
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StoneByStone said:
First of all, American intervention in WWI helped to create Nazism and Fascism.
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How is that even credible?

StoneByStone said:
Secondly, getting involved in WWII led to Soviet occupation in Eastern Europe. And finally, I'm not saying we have to ignore the world. I'm saying we need to stop unnecessary wars and occupations.
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I guess you forgot the part where we were attacked. Good lord dude, you're sounding like a deluded, low IQ idiot now.
 
StoneByStone said:
People spending money is good, that's what causes the economy to thrive. Things get bad when there isn't enough money moving around, and that's what happens under Capitalism because wealth becomes too centralized.
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So Venezuela is a shining success and Socialist utopia in your little mind? :laugh:
 
StoneByStone said:
But because of social programs, such as universal health care and affordable college, living standards are still higher in European and East Asian Liberal Socialist countries than in America.
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Have you ever lived in Europe or been to Asia? The living standards are NOTHING like we have here.
 
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