Black Female Obesity is NOT the Fault of the Black Female!!! ... apparently...

gfm7175 said:
Yes, they can. I've personally done it. I've lost 35 pounds now and counting. I'm making better choices now. I'm disciplining my mind now.


What are these magickal "internal mechanisms" that magickally make people into fat-asses against their will?


Sounds like they relapsed and fell back into their old bad habits then.


Like what you are doing right now?


They never had the mental discipline to keep excess weight off to begin with. That's why they chose the bypass way out. They got fat again because they don't have the mental discipline to take care of themselves. They simply addressed the symptom of being obese, not the root cause of their obesity.


The author of this article says that he ate "low-carb", lost about a third of his body weight, and kept that weight off through what he refers to as "high maintenance" diets. Then he bitches about there being zero "no to low maintenance" options. Well DUH, it takes MENTAL DISCIPLINE to keep making good choices to keep the weight off. It doesn't just magickally happen. He then mentions that he changed his entire lifestyle and remained vigilant about it. Well DUH, that's precisely why there aren't any "no to low maintenance" options, and precisely why he kept his weight off. He had the mental discipline to keep making good choices. Then the article goes on, but it basically just says that people lose their mental discipline due to [insert various excuses here] which magickally removes blame from themselves for their succumbing back into making bad choices.
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Here, learn something. https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2012/01/overweight-people-weight-thermostat-turned-high.html
 
AssHatZombie said:
this is horseshit. he got paid to write this shit so people would give up, keep diabetes and be good insulin customers for life.
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Oh Ok. if you have inside information on why science and psychology, in particular, see some emotional and physical reasons people have trouble losing weight and maintaining it, how can I argue. You should read the info. The science is interesting.
 
Gonzomin said:
Oh Ok. if you have inside information on why science and psychology, in particular, see some emotional and physical reasons people have trouble losing weight and maintaining it, how can I argue. You should read the info. The science is interesting.
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I have. people eat too many carbs and too often. the setpoint shit is just a metaphor taken from the hvac world, you idiot.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I have. people eat too many carbs and too often. the setpoint shit is just a metaphor taken from the hvac world, you idiot.
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Why do you feel compelled to call me a name? I argued without being nasty and provided you with zome science backing my position.Here is a 4.5 min video. Perhaps you can understand that without getting angry?>
 
This thread is much like the political ones. Rightys absolutely will not listen to anything that disputes their preconceptions and insult those who argue with them. Their stance is" I know for a fact what causes weight gain and I refuse to listen to your side, If you have a different view it is proof that you are stupid or lying since what I believe in beyond reproach."
Sorry I dared to show the science and another side. That is not permitted.
 
Gonzomin said:
This thread is much like the political ones. Rightys absolutely will not listen to anything that disputes their preconceptions and insult those who argue with them. Their stance is" I know for a fact what causes weight gain and I refuse to listen to your side, If you have a different view it is proof that you are stupid or lying since what I believe in beyond reproach."
Sorry I dared to show the science and another side. That is not permitted.
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you're "side" is just stupidity.
 
Gonzomin said:
Why do you feel compelled to call me a name? I argued without being nasty and provided you with zome science backing my position.Here is a 4.5 min video. Perhaps you can understand that without getting angry?>
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because you're manufacturing excuses for addicts to not change.
 
keeping weight off has to be nothing less than a permanent lifestyle change. you can never go back to eating carbs 6 times a day.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you're "side" is just stupidity.
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The side of science and psychology is stupid. Your right-wing craziness is superior to them. Read what you type. Have you any idea how stupid your response is? Of course, you don't. You don't need no stinkin science. You just know and that makes it true.
 
Gonzomin said:
The side of science and psychology is stupid. Your right-wing craziness is superior to them. Read what you type. Have you any idea how stupid your response is? Of course, you don't. You don't need no stinkin science. You just know and that makes it true.
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the science is you can never go back to your old eating habits. there is no "after dieting". that's the reality. so if you lost weight in an unsustainable way (exercizing 6 rs a day), you probably will not be able to sustain that. but if you lost it through keto and IF, that's doable.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I have. people eat too many carbs and too often. the setpoint shit is just a metaphor taken from the hvac world, you idiot.
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No, you have not. You simply reject without reading and act angrily and insult. That makes real conversations one-sided and takes away the adult part.
 
AssHatZombie said:
no. your shit is bullshit excuse making to keep people patients of big pharma for life.
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There is money in pharm and doctors for lifetime conditions. That is a characteristic of our health system that may bite us big in the future. Pharm will not develop new antibiotics because you take a shot and get cured. That is not as profitable as hooking people for life. So Pharm is not going big to develop new ones.
I gave no excuses, just scientific facts. Dieters are lifetime customers. Boner pills sell over and over. Insulin is a lifetime seller. My "excuses" have nothing to do with that .Explaining to you why people have terrible trouble losing weight is not causing it.
 
Gonzomin said:
There is money in pharm and doctors for lifetime conditions. That is a characteristic of our health system that may bite us big in the future. Pharm will not develop new antibiotics because you take a shot and get cured. That is not as profitable as hooking people for life. So Pharm is not going big to develop new ones.
I gave no excuses, just scientific facts. Dieters are lifetime customers. Boner pills sell over and over. Insulin is a lifetime seller. My "excuses" have nothing to do with that .Explaining to you why people have terrible trouble losing weight is not causing it.
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yes. your excuses keep people diabetic for life.
 
Gonzomin said:
Here, learn something.
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Void Argument.

I've personally went through a weight loss process, and so have people that I know. I know how it's done. The dude from your other article is just playing the victim card (like the lady mentioned in the OP was doing) and using that as an excuse for why people gain weight back again. People hate being responsible for their own actions. They love to blame others for their misfortunes.

Gonzomin said:
https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2012/01/overweight-people-weight-thermostat-turned-high.html
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Albert Fuchs, MD is correct about how hard it is to lose weight (and to break addictions). I disagree with him about there being little knowledge about how to lose weight successfully. I have done it, my cousin has done it, Mark Dice has done it, and so have countless other people. The problem is that there is A LOT of misinformation out there that gets peddled by various nutritionists, food industry, government, etc...

Then he goes on a completely unrelated tangent for a while...

Then he brings up this "beauty" of an argument... "Many people occasionally fast for a day. This results in a small weight loss. Without an internal set point for weight, that weight loss would be permanent or would fade very slowly. But weight loss after a fast usually disappears within a few days, suggesting that hunger is increased for the subsequent few days until the weight re-normalizes."

"Occasionally fasting for a day" is not how one keeps weight off. At best, one might lose a pound as a result from doing that. Daily fluctuations alone could bring that weight back, so DUH the "weight loss" disappears. That's not a suggestion that hunger is increased until weight re-normalizes. Instead, that shows that the person hasn't changed their eating habits at all. No wonder they aren't losing weight!! They haven't changed any of their habits.

Then he gets into various other excuses... There is no "increased hunger" that is apparently out of one's control. When I initially switched my eating habits over from two large meals a day (plus pre-bedtime snacking) to one large meal a day (sometimes a large meal and a smaller meal) and ZERO snacking, I had "hunger pangs" during the times that I would typically eat at", as my digestive system was ready to digest food at those times. After a few days of 're-training' my body, I no longer get hunger pangs at those times. Now, I only get them around the time that I eat my one large meal. They don't mean that one is hungry, rather, that one's body is ready to digest food due to how and when one has trained their body to expect food intake.

Then, he mentions a study (another BS 'subjectively-based' study, but I'll not get into that) that shows that decreased caloric intake results in weight loss, but then makes excuses as to why people gain the weight back instead of just admitting that these people have since increased their caloric intake again. STOP. MAKING. EXCUSES. You increased your caloric intake again; you resumed back to your bad habits again. That's why you gained your weight back again. That's why the myriad of diets don't work long-term, since people don't make a permanent lifestyle change. They revert back to their old ways. That's why one of my uncles gained back weight after he lost a bunch on a low-carb diet. He stopped doing the low-carb diet. He reverted back to his old ways. He didn't make a permanent lifestyle change. My cousin and I ARE making permanent lifestyle changes. We are not going to revert back to being out of shape and overweight.

Then, he drops this doosy on us... "I can choose whether to have a snack now or not, but I can’t choose to fast for three days or to eat much less than my caloric needs for a month."
Ummm, yes one can... But all that's needed to lose weight is to reduce caloric intake. Exercise assists in doing this, so that it need not be as much of a reduction. People take in too many calories too often (and calories that don't yield much nutritional value). That is the main problem behind obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc...

** There is no such thing as a "weight thermostat". That's just excuse-making BS for lack of willpower.
 
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