Blackburn: "Can you provide a definition for the word 'woman'?"

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christiefan915 said:
Jackson: "I'm not a biologist." Too bad the Jackson-hating RWs think they are.

"[Rebecca]Jordan-Young, [a scientist and gender studies scholar at Barnard College whose work explores the relationships between science and the social hierarchies of gender and sexuality].said she sees Jackson's answer, particularly the second half, reflecting the necessity of nuance. While traditional notions of sex and gender suggest a simple binary – if you are born with a penis, you are male and identify as a man and if you are born with a vagina, you are female and identify as a woman – the reality, gender experts say, is more complex.

"There isn't one single 'biological' answer to the definition of a woman. There's not even a singular biological answer to the question of 'what is a female,'" Jordan-Young said.

There are at least six different biological markers of “sex” in the body: genitals, chromosomes, gonads, internal reproductive structures, hormone ratios and secondary sex characteristics. None of the six is strictly dichotomous, Jordan-Young said, and the different markers don’t always align.

Sarah Richardson, a Harvard scholar, historian and philosopher of biology who focuses on the sciences of sex and gender and their policy dimensions, said Jackson's answer accurately reflects legal practice. While U.S. law remains an unsettled arena for the conceptualization and definition of sex, it frequently grounds sex categorization in biological evidence and reasoning. But like Jordan-Young, Richardson emphasized that biology does not offer a simple or singular answer to the question of what defines a woman.

"As is so often the case, science cannot settle what are really social questions," she said. "In any particular case of sex categorization, whether in law or in science, it is necessary to build a definition of sex particular to context."

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The three definitions Republican men are familiar with.

1. Baby maker.

2. Whore.

3. The little lady.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
While that may be true, expecting it from someone unable or unwilling to give it is a waste of your time. :cool:
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I just wish Margie Blackburn would ask me if I thought she was a woman!

I would say, "I'm no Biologist- but I'd be willing to take a look!"!

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gfm7175 said:
So you've now learned why credentials are absolutely meaningless on internet forums such as this one? --- But yes, whether you choose to believe it or not, I am a biologist. I am also an accountant and a photographer, amongst other things.

No, I do not read and regurgitate USA Today for "my studies". I do not accept USA Today as a source of anything.

In the overwhelming majority of cases (iow, cases that don't involve any sort of rare genetic/chromosomal abnormalities), it is plain as day to tell between male and female. Even in such "rare abnormal" cases, it is usually quite easy to tell (the presence or non-presence of the SRY gene, for example).

So, in a simplistic sense, XX=female and XY=male ... This is a basic biological truth. Yes, there are some rare genetic/chromosomal conditions that have the potential to make this basic truth a bit more complicated in such extremely rare cases, but within the context of any "typical" situation (meaning, no genetic/chromosomal abnormalities), XX=female and XY=male.
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It's nice to see that you, too, occasionally drop a logical fallacy. The list of sex characteristics is factual biology, not USA Today opinion.

This list isn't all inclusive but what do you have an issue with?

Genitals: penis v. vagina
Chromosomes: XX v. XY
Gonads: testis v. ovary
Internal reproductive structure: vas deferens, seminal vesicles, prostate gland, ejaculatory ducts v. ovary, fallopian tubes, uterus, vagina, cervix
Hormones: testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone v. estrogen, progesterone, HCG
Secondary sex characteristics: facial & chest hair, thicker vocal cords, prominent Adam's apple, greater bone mass v. breast development, pubic hair, menstrual cycle, rounded hips
 
Damocles said:
If she cannot define a woman how can we tell if she fits within the criteria set forth by Brandon to nominate her? Is she a woman? How can she tell? I mean, her parents told her that she is... Is that enough? Were they biologists? What if they were wrong?
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You and I both know she *can* define a woman but chose not to, because she decided not to rise to the bait. Did you not listen to her answer? Blackburn was only entering RW grievances into the hearings: CRT, transgender rights, the liberal media, court packing and abortion. Her questions had nothing to do with Jackson's record.

At least one Tennessee Rep., Gloria Johnson, spoke the truth about Blackburn: "[she] excels at ignorance, TN would like to apologize to the nation for this one."
 
gfm7175 said:
Who is "she"?


Sybil isn't here, dude...


Yes, as socks are clothing. I make use of the same few hats that I wear for their respective purposes. I don't do anything in which wearing a mask would be helpful or necessary.

Curiosity quenched?
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I do use a mask where it's helpful or necessary. Covid19 ain't it. I generally don't wear a hat unless it's cold or raining (which is most of the time around here! :D).
I need to get more socks. My dryer ate them all one by one.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed, Sybil.

Here's the thing, old girl; I'm not that smart....you're just that stupid. If I can figure out who you are, don't you think the NSA and FBI also know?

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It's not hard for TSA to figure out who I am. I carry identification.
Of course, these days, I don't use the airlines.

The FBI has no problem figuring out who I am either. I have my fingerprints on file with them. It's required for casino dealers, you know. Those were filed when I was a casino dealer at an indian casino. Meh.
They were taken again when I applied for my conceal carry permit. I imagine the police forwarded to the FBI by how. Meh.
They were taken again when I applied for my explosives manufacturing license. I imagine the BATF forwarded 'em to the FBI by now. Meh.

Obviously, you have no idea who I am.
 
Into the Night said:
It's not hard for TSA to figure out who I am. I carry identification.
Of course, these days, I don't use the airlines.

The FBI has no problem figuring out who I am either. I have my fingerprints on file with them. It's required for casino dealers, you know. Those were filed when I was a casino dealer at an indian casino. Meh.
They were taken again when I applied for my conceal carry permit. I imagine the police forwarded to the FBI by how. Meh.
They were taken again when I applied for my explosives manufacturing license. I imagine the BATF forwarded 'em to the FBI by now. Meh.

Obviously, you have no idea who I am.
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It's a good sign you aren't worried about being tracked, Sybil. Kudos! :thup:

Obviously you are smart enough to know that intelligence isn't a measure of sanity. I have no doubt you are intelligent, you're just not as intelligent...or sane...as you believe yourself to be.

Sure, all of us intelligent people often suffer from the pitfall of overconfidence. Sane, mature people learn. Sane, immature people learn some but never apply it. Insane, mature people learn and tend to be cautious since they know a slip up (loss of control) will get them arrested. Insane, immature people are arrested.

Given those four groups; where would you honestly place yourself and me? I place myself in the first group and you in the third.
 
Into the Night said:
gfm7175 said:
Who is "she"?

Sybil isn't here, dude...

Yes, as socks are clothing. I make use of the same few hats that I wear for their respective purposes. I don't do anything in which wearing a mask would be helpful or necessary.

Curiosity quenched?
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I do use a mask where it's helpful or necessary. Covid19 ain't it. I generally don't wear a hat unless it's cold or raining (which is most of the time around here! :D).
I need to get more socks. My dryer ate them all one by one.
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OMG! I LOVE PSYCHOS!!!

Sybil, thanks for the laugh!

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