BLM Declares Looting "OK", Says It's "Reparations"

If you don't remember the discussion by myself and others criticizing her for justifying looting, then you might have dementia.

No, no, no.

You don't get to try and move the goalposts now, Flash.

At the start, your objection to the video was about "economics", namely, when you said "she got her economics from PUSH." That was your qualifier for dismissing the content of the video.

I don't believe you even watched the video beyond that.

So are you now going to pretend that isn't what you were talking about?
 
Obviously the above positions are too difficult for you. I favor low taxes but do not favor tax cuts because they are low enough. I clearly said (multiple times) that I did not favor Trump's tax cuts without equal spending cuts

You support low taxes, you think the current taxes are low enough...so what does that have to do with spending?


Most posters can understand such a simple position

No, Flash, you're just being dishonest. If you say the taxes are currently low enough, then that means you had to support the tax cuts that reduced them to this rate.
 
She attempted to justify looting

Did she justify it or explain it?

The problem is you think her explaining the economic conditions that prompted the looting is a justification for it. It's not. IT'S AN EXPLANATION.

And it's an explanation you are willfully ignoring because lOoTiNg MaKeS fLAsH sCaReD.

You don't have to accept her explanation or not; you just have to acknowledge it, and you don't want to do that because it would mean acknowledging that this country is founded on white supremacy, is guided by white supremacy, many white supremacists are in charge, and you've personally benefited from it. So by acknowledgeing that, you are acknowledging that you didn't get to your level of success without the assistance of an institutionally racist system that you've exploited to your advantage.
 
Did she justify it or explain it?

The problem is you think her explaining the economic conditions that prompted the looting is a justification for it. It's not. IT'S AN EXPLANATION.

And it's an explanation you are willfully ignoring because lOoTiNg MaKeS fLAsH sCaReD.

You don't have to accept her explanation or not; you just have to acknowledge it, and you don't want to do that because it would mean acknowledging that this country is founded on white supremacy, is guided by white supremacy, many white supremacists are in charge, and you've personally benefited from it. So by acknowledgeing that, you are acknowledging that you didn't get to your level of success without the assistance of an institutionally racist system that you've exploited to your advantage.

We already had this discussion and you basically posted this same point. So, it wasn't that I didn't address the issue I disagreed with the video about, you just forgot the discussion by myself and several others.

For example, see post #162:

"She clearly said looting was to get things they wanted. Meanwhile, most blacks go to work everyday to make a living and buy the things they want. I wonder why they don't have grievances that lead them to loot--they live under the same economic system.

Your acknowledgement of your white privilege also makes you lucky they don't want revenge. They would probably come after you first for thinking they are incapable of taking care of themselves and need your help. But you don't really offer any help, you just agree to feel guilty and preach about it on message boards."

So, the topic was discussed. We just have to keep repeating it for you because of your convenient loss of memory. You will see multiple posts about this topic on those pages.

She was trying to do more than explain looting, she was trying to justify it. PUSH was irrelevant. You just wanted to use the buzzword "triggered."
 
You support low taxes, you think the current taxes are low enough...so what does that have to do with spending?


No, Flash, you're just being dishonest. If you say the taxes are currently low enough, then that means you had to support the tax cuts that reduced them to this rate.

I did not support them without spending cuts. But that has already happened, so I don't favor additional cuts.

This is not that difficult, LV. We better not discuss more difficult economic problems. If you can't understand the above you would never grasp anything more difficult.
 
I don't see her as a victim and I have never heard her describe herself that way. She moves on and has been very successful despite any roadblocks. Despite your stereotypes all minorities do not see themselves as victims.

Two things about these statement because I think they're you telling on yourself:

1. If you are telling yourself this, it is because you stood by and watched as your own wife was repeatedly and constantly (remember, you said she faces more discrimination than anyone) denigrated in front of you, and you did nothing about it. Nothing. Well almost nothing...you watched. A+ husbanding, professor.

2. If your wife is telling you this, it is probably because she doesn’t want you to feel bad at passively standing by as she is denigrated, abused, and/or “facing discrimination” that you can’t or won’t defend her from. So she’s being victimized TWICE; once by an abuser, and then again by you for having to accommodate the guilt you feel at doing nothing about what happens to her.

So she is denied whatever victimhood she is entitled to because you have a big sad at failing to defend your wife from the supposed constant discrimination and denigration you say she faces. So you convince yourself that she is somehow OK with the constant abuse that no one else understands, that it doesn't trouble her nor does it affect her, because the alternative is confronting the abuse together which is going to be...uncomfortable. She will have to edit herself so as not to provoke some kind of self-serving reaction out of you. This is what almost every minority goes through. Having to be mindful not only of themselves, but be delicate around you.

What you have shared with us is that your wife faces constant abuse, prejudice, and discrimination that you are powerless to defend against, so you get a big sad out of it. Wah. Frowny face Flash.

When someone shouts a slur at your wife, do you turn to your wife and say, “well, I might not agree with what he said but it is his right to say it.” We know you don’t confront them. So what do you do? Do you just stand there? Do you turn your wife’s other cheek for her? Does this happen whenever you leave the house? Don’t tell me you were exaggerating before.

This is the eternal problem of submitting personal anecdotes, given circumstances, unverifiable nonsense in a debate. It always unavoidably becomes personal.
 
Two things about these statement because I think they're you telling on yourself:

1. If you are telling yourself this, it is because you stood by and watched as your own wife was repeatedly and constantly (remember, you said she faces more discrimination than anyone) denigrated in front of you, and you did nothing about it. Nothing. Well almost nothing...you watched. A+ husbanding, professor.

2. If your wife is telling you this, it is probably because she doesn’t want you to feel bad at passively standing by as she is denigrated, abused, and/or “facing discrimination” that you can’t or won’t defend her from. So she’s being victimized TWICE; once by an abuser, and then again by you for having to accommodate the guilt you feel at doing nothing about what happens to her.

So she is denied whatever victimhood she is entitled to because you have a big sad at failing to defend your wife from the supposed constant discrimination and denigration you say she faces. So you convince yourself that she is somehow OK with the constant abuse that no one else understands, that it doesn't trouble her nor does it affect her, because the alternative is confronting the abuse together which is going to be...uncomfortable. She will have to edit herself so as not to provoke some kind of self-serving reaction out of you. This is what almost every minority goes through. Having to be mindful not only of themselves, but be delicate around you.

What you have shared with us is that your wife faces constant abuse, prejudice, and discrimination that you are powerless to defend against, so you get a big sad out of it. Wah. Frowny face Flash.

When someone shouts a slur at your wife, do you turn to your wife and say, “well, I might not agree with what he said but it is his right to say it.” We know you don’t confront them. So what do you do? Do you just stand there? Do you turn your wife’s other cheek for her? Does this happen whenever you leave the house? Don’t tell me you were exaggerating before.

This is the eternal problem of submitting personal anecdotes, given circumstances, unverifiable nonsense in a debate. It always unavoidably becomes personal.

It is so easy to prove you are a liar, make up things, and make erroneous assumptions based on nothing but your biases. All a poster has to do is go back and read the original post to prove everything you say is untrue.

Here is my original post:

"You have no clue about empathy. I have seen my wife face more prejudice and discrimination in her lifetime than you'll ever know--from both white and black."

Nowhere does it say or imply it was:

"repeatedly and constantly" [LV426 lie]
"more discrimination than anyone" [LV426 lie]
nowhere did I ever say or imply I stood by and did nothing about it [LV426 lie]
nowhere does it say I perceived her as a victim or that she perceived herself as a victim [LV426 lie]

[LV426]"So she is denied whatever victimhood she is entitled."

You think being a victim is an "entitlement"? What a crock. I don't view her as a victim. She doesn't need that entitlement.


You are now taking up for my wife which you earlier accused of being "fake". You are so anxious to show off your anger you can't even keep up with your own arguments.

Everybody can read my original post and see how you lied, distorted, exaggerated, and made unwarranted assumptions--typical of your phony arguments.
 
"You have no clue about empathy. I have seen my wife face more prejudice and discrimination in her lifetime than you'll ever know--from both white and black."

To which you've done absolutely nothing about.

Worse, you've dismissed it unilaterally.

So you don't have your wife's back; instead, you use her as a prop in this theater of the absurd.
 
It is so easy to prove you are a liar, make up things, and make erroneous assumptions based on nothing but your biases. All a poster has to do is go back and read the original post to prove everything you say is untrue.

Here is my original post:

"You have no clue about empathy. I have seen my wife face more prejudice and discrimination in her lifetime than you'll ever know--from both white and black."

Nowhere does it say or imply it was:

"repeatedly and constantly" [LV426 lie]
"more discrimination than anyone" [LV426 lie]
nowhere did I ever say or imply I stood by and did nothing about it [LV426 lie]
nowhere does it say I perceived her as a victim or that she perceived herself as a victim [LV426 lie]

Except it is...that is what you said when you said she faces more than I would ever know.

What's telling about that is that you stood by and watched it happen to her, and you did nothing about it.

Sounds like you need some marriage counseling.
 
You think being a victim is an "entitlement"? What a crock. I don't view her as a victim. She doesn't need that entitlement.

You don't view her as a victim because if you did, that would mean you did nothing to defend or support her.

So you are very cowardly avoiding confrontation not for your wife's sake, but for yours. You're absconding responsibility for defending your wife because it would be hard.

So when you tell yourself you don't view her as a victim, the message you're sending is that the prejudice and discrimination she faces doesn't actually exist.
 
You are now taking up for my wife which you earlier accused of being "fake". You are so anxious to show off your anger you can't even keep up with your own arguments.

Flash, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to your "wife", who you invoked and entered into this debate to try and prove an argument, when all you ended up proving is that you're a freaking coward who doesn't have your wife's back, and who considers the prejudice and discrimination she faces is imaginary.

That's not being a good ally.
 
Everybody can read my original post and see how you lied, distorted, exaggerated, and made unwarranted assumptions--typical of your phony arguments.

So your wife faces more prejudice than I will ever know, but is not victimized by it because you don't see her as a victim.

So...how are you not a sociopath with that admission? And why have you done nothing to defend your wife from the things she faces?
 
It is so easy to prove you are a liar, make up things, and make erroneous assumptions based on nothing but your biases. All a poster has to do is go back and read the original post to prove everything you say is untrue.

Here is my original post:

"You have no clue about empathy. I have seen my wife face more prejudice and discrimination in her lifetime than you'll ever know--from both white and black."

Nowhere does it say or imply it was:

"repeatedly and constantly" [LV426 lie]
"more discrimination than anyone" [LV426 lie]
nowhere did I ever say or imply I stood by and did nothing about it [LV426 lie]
nowhere does it say I perceived her as a victim or that she perceived herself as a victim [LV426 lie]

[LV426]"So she is denied whatever victimhood she is entitled."

You think being a victim is an "entitlement"? What a crock. I don't view her as a victim. She doesn't need that entitlement.


You are now taking up for my wife which you earlier accused of being "fake". You are so anxious to show off your anger you can't even keep up with your own arguments.

Everybody can read my original post and see how you lied, distorted, exaggerated, and made unwarranted assumptions--typical of your phony arguments.

What I'm talking about with your wife is emotional labor. Namely, that as a woman and a minority, she not only has to be mindful of how she presents herself to others, but she must also carry the burden of emotional labor by not confronting you on any of this; on your inaction, on your ambivalence, on your passive denial of the institutional racism she is victimized by on a daily basis.

So what she's doing is internalizing her pain because sharing it would make you uncomfortable; either because you're too weak to defend her, or you're too proud to admit your preconceived notions are wrong.

Emotional Labor and Women of Color in the Workplace: A Reality Check
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/article/686010

Impossible Burdens: White Institutions, Emotional Labor, and Micro-Resistance

Uncompensated emotional labor, racial battle fatigue, and (in)civility in digital spaces
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/soc4.12658

Hidden in plain sight: Uncovering the emotional labor of Black women students at historically White colleges and universities.
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-77872-001

The toll of emotional labor for minorities and women in this country is the theft of wages, the arresting of social mobility, and the regression of civil progress.
 
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Except it is...that is what you said when you said she faces more than I would ever know.

What's telling about that is that you stood by and watched it happen to her, and you did nothing about it.

Sounds like you need some marriage counseling.

"Facing more than you will ever know" is very different than "more discrimination than anyone." Learn to differentiate meaning.

[LV426]"What's telling about that is that you stood by and watched it happen to her, and you did nothing about it."

Another LV426 lie. You have no clue about what I did and I never said anything about my reaction.

I'm sure you would have jumped up and said "you are entitled to victimhood for that action" and then required the person to feel guilty and then ask for reparations.

You think I need marriage counseling for my "fake" wife? You can't keep your lies straight. Oh, what a tangled web we weave......
 
"Facing more than you will ever know" is very different than "more discrimination than anyone." Learn to differentiate meaning.

Goalposts ever shifting...

Well, you don't know shit about me, so you can't make this statement.

Secondly, if you wife faced these things right in front of you, how come you never defended her? How come you never rose to the moment? Because it's easier and lazier for you to dismiss it than it is to confront it.
 
What I'm talking about with your wife is emotional labor. Namely, that as a woman and a minority, she not only has to be mindful of how she presents herself to others, but she must also carry the burden of emotional labor by not confronting you on any of this; on your inaction, on your ambivalence, on your passive denial of the institutional racism she is victimized by on a daily basis.

So what she's doing is internalizing her pain because sharing it would make you uncomfortable; either because you're too weak to defend her, or you're too proud to admit your preconceived notions are wrong.

"Emotional labor"? You would have nothing to say if you could not spout liberal politically correct buzzwords, cliches, and terms from college social science textbooks. Let's see, we have white privilege, entitlement, victim, and on and on.
 
You have no clue about what I did and I never said anything about my reaction

Well, since you are so quick to dismiss what the woman in the video was saying, what could possibly convince me that you'd defend your wife from the things described?


You think I need marriage counseling for my "fake" wife? You can't keep your lies straight. Oh, what a tangled web we weave......

As I said, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to your wife, who I'm more convinced resents you every single day...if she even exists.
 
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