I'd say he's just like guno. Probably lives in public housing paid for by HUD.
You're right, something ain't right with him/her/it.
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I'd say he's just like guno. Probably lives in public housing paid for by HUD.
You're right, something ain't right with him/her/it.
I guess I am just stubborn. Very unusual for me because I am very good natured, have no temper, and believe in tolerance and understanding for all.
I experienced some of those same hostilities as a college student. Some of it is hostility toward something that takes the form of politics--it could be right or left. My attitudes changed a lot when I really became involved in decision making and seeing how the system actually worked. I realized it was not the simplistic those in power are evil mentality--they often got certain privileges because nobody else wanted the responsibility.
LV and I are both fans of Alien movies, but I don't try to make anything political out of them.
Yes, of course they were. White supremacist economic justice. And it wasn't just Tulsa. It was Rosewood. It was Birmingham. It was the Red Summer of 1919.
You probably don't know about any of that, and that's because you've made the choice not to.
So then when you were speaking earlier about how race doesn't matter to you, that you don't consider it, don't see it, or some variation of that, you were not trying to posture a colorblindness that reveals the realities of someone's character to you? Really? REALLY?
But that is what you said Flash, even if you didn't use those exact words. Even if it wasn't verbatim, it is the theme of what you've been arguing. That's why you said "she isn't always good".
What does THAT mean?
Your universal, fundamental problem is that you think that your perspective is the standard by which everything else is measured.
So if something doesn't affect you personally, you are incapable of acknowledging that it might affect someone who isn't you.
That is because of your insulated privilege, which your own personal ethics had nothing to do with. You glide by on your privilege because ultimately, nothing is going to change for you regardless of who is in power. So your opposition comes from the fear that you will have to share that power with people you look down upon because you think you're so great, or the fear that comes with the realization that you didn't achieve that power or status through your own effort or work ethic. You had help. 400 years of institutional racism is what helped you. In the words of Obama, "you didn't build that".
So what you do is tell people that what they perceive and that their perspectives are dismiss-able.
Like what happened when you got triggered by the video. You heard "PUSH" and immediately shut yourself down because you have a preconceived notion of PUSH; a notion not informed by anything other than your inherent biases and racism. So rather than debate the economics of what she was saying, you sought to discredit her -and her perspective- outright like a real piece of shit.
You haven't ONCE debated a single issue she raised in that video. Instead, you just offered your shitty, uninformed, inexperienced opinion because you got triggered at the mere mention of PUSH.
Imagine that...a single acronym was able to render you completely shut down.
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YOU SAY SHE IS A VICTIM OF IT IN THE SECOND SENTENCE, FLASH.
So she is a victim of prejudice and discrimination because you just said so.
What do you think "facing" prejudice and discrimination means? If they call her a slur, whether or not she takes offense to it doesn't change the fact that she's been victimized by that slur.
This is all because you've never once in your entire life faced any discrimination or prejudice. Never.
That's why you think someone who faces discrimination and prejudice aren't victims of it. Merely facing those things makes them victims, Flash. Some choose to be quiet and let it roll off their backs, but just because they have tough skin doesn't mean they're not still being victimized.
You have ZERO empathy for anyone. Even your wife.
As usual, you are mixing up your posters. I never said race doesn't matter, or that I don't consider it, don't see, or any variation of that. So, I was not trying to posture anything.
More confusion on your part.
I never once said I lived in Buckhead.
Never.
Not once.
I would never live there because it sucks.
OK, then. PROVE IT.
Prove your anecdote.
Go ahead.
Prove it.
You submitted this nonsense into the debate, so now comes the part where you have to verify.
So...verify your anecdotes.
If you refuse, then all that means is that the anecdotes are bullshit.
I am not asking too much, I'm merely asking you to verify you are the person you claim to be.
BoThSiDeRiStS and Conservatives have a nasty habit of exaggerating, embellishing, or just plain lying about their own personal given circumstances, and ALMOST ALWAYS, those circumstances are vomited into a debate thread when you can't support your argument with facts or data.
So it becomes a game of "well, when I did XYZ...that proves my argument"...then someone asks "prove it", and you respond "no".
So I guess I should just take your word for it, even after you've exaggerated and embellished your own personal record for effect? Why the fuck should I? Why should anyone? What have you done to establish that level of trust?
Horseshit.
More putting unspoken words or thoughts in my mouth. I said "I said I have seen her face prejudice and discrimination and it was very hurtful for me to see it."
Nothing in that sentence says she is a victim. That is your unwarranted conjecture. We don't all see victimhood in every action. I don't presume to speak for my wife but she has never described herself as a victim. You don't get to put her in that category if she doesn't. Being a victim requires being hindered in being successful in life.
So you do see race, then? When you see someone's race, what else are you seeing?
You can't make up your mind. Here you call her a prop and earlier you said she was a "fake" wife.
As usual, your posts quickly turned to personal insults and attacks. You have no consistent ideology, principles, or moral standard.
Right, so you made her experience about YOU on this thread.
I don't care about YOUR perspective of the racism your wife faces, I care about HER perspective on it because she's the victim of it, not you.
What you did was to say you feel bad when your wife is a victim of racism. Wow. Don't go too far out on that limb.
The question isn't "how does racism directed at your wife make you feel?", the question is "what are you going to do about it?"
You don't seem to want to do anything about it. And that's why you suck.
Yes, it is, right here in fact:
So she faced prejudice and discrimination which would make her...a...what? A victim of it.
Flash, my business is words and you chose to use the words you used in a very specific way.
Unless...you're going to admit to just lazily posting shit on an anonymous forum? In which case, OK.
Well, it doesn't really matter what you think, Flash, because you've never been a victim.
A real victim, I mean, not one of your own making.
You literally said your wife "faced prejudice and discrimination". So if she faced prejudice and discrimination, how wasn't she also a victim of prejudice and discrimination?
Probably because she wants to feel strong and not victimized, but I can guarantee you that she's holding back from you specifically because of the way you patronize her, like you're doing on this thread. Whether or not you choose to admit to being a victim doesn't change whether or not there was action taken against you, like calling you a slur or something.
I've been called almost every slur for Jewish person in the book, and I laugh every time I am, but that still doesn't mean I'm not being victimized by the action of the slur.
You're not half as smart as you want people to think you are. You should read Aristotle's Poetics because you might realize your own toxicity if put in rhetorical terms.
I already proved your math was phony in earlier posts when you refused to believe Trump got 8 million votes from people who voted for Obama in 2012.
You know I can't go back and find two students from several years ago. But if a non-citizen registered to vote, voted, and got 8 years in prison she obviously checked citizen or she would not have been registered.
"Although it’s against the law for non-citizens to vote in Texas, Ortega registered to vote in 2002 as a Republican and then cast ballots multiple times over more than a decade."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-voter-fraud-prison_n_5c01a9afe4b0a173c02305c1
Or, simply review the AZ law that tried to verify people are citizens before they register that was struck down by the Supreme Court.
You can never debate facts, you only claim people are lying. That is a poor argument and shows lack of knowledge on your part of the topic under discussion.
I never embellished or exaggerated anything, you were just unable to dispute real facts.
You saw a video, a few seconds in the acronym PUSH is heard, which immediately shuts your down and compels you to attack the woman in the video...presumably she's bad because she's speaking truths that make you uncomfortable to hear; namely that this country was founded on white supremacy and has racism baked into its institutions, even its founding documents.
You don't think so, even though the Fugitive Slave Clause and the 3/5th clause are both in the founding document of this country, and black people were denied the right to vote until nearly 100 years after the country was founded (black women had to wait ANOTHER 50 years).
I can't understand how anyone can look at the country's history and NOT think this.