Boris Johnson humiliated.

Walt said:
If there is a sudden end of trade, the EU might have slight problems, but the UK will be close to collapse.
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The EU/UK balamce of trade (including services) is approximately £70 billion in favor of the EU. If there is a "sudden end of trade" (lol), you think the EU "might have slight problems"?

Back in the real world, UK GDP growth is forecast by the IMF to be 1.4% this year and 1.5% next, both higher than the eurozone. When is the long-awaited collapse coming? We've been waiting four years already, we can't wait forever!
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
The EU/UK balamce of trade (including services) is approximately £70 billion in favor of the EU. If there is a "sudden end of trade" (lol), you think the EU "might have slight problems"?

Back in the real world, UK GDP growth is forecast by the IMF to be 1.4% this year and 1.5% next, both higher than the eurozone. When is the long-awaited collapse coming? We've been waiting four years already, we can't wait forever!
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A sudden end to trade would mean food and medicine shortages in the UK, and lower growth in the EU. People would die in the UK. The EU would continue to grow, but at a slower rate.

Johnson keeps promising that there is a better deal coming. There is no better deal coming. There is no way for the EU to have a secret negotiating position, they have to make their position public. So we all know there is no better deal coming.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
The EU/UK balamce of trade (including services) is approximately £70 billion in favor of the EU. If there is a "sudden end of trade" (lol), you think the EU "might have slight problems"?

Back in the real world, UK GDP growth is forecast by the IMF to be 1.4% this year and 1.5% next, both higher than the eurozone. When is the long-awaited collapse coming? We've been waiting four years already, we can't wait forever!
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As you know, kid, we are still living under the agreed terms, as we have been all the time your mobs have been shouting down any opposition with this crap of yours.
 
Walt said:
Havana, you have gotten the best offer the EU will offer you. Accept it or reject it. You are not getting better.

I think the EU is tired of the UK whining. They have their own problems, and really do not feel like wasting any more time on the UK. If there is a sudden end of trade, the EU might have slight problems, but the UK will be close to collapse.
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I think you're an arsehole who's away with the fairies!
 
Walt said:
A sudden end to trade would mean food and medicine shortages in the UK, and lower growth in the EU. People would die in the UK. The EU would continue to grow, but at a slower rate.

Johnson keeps promising that there is a better deal coming. There is no better deal coming. There is no way for the EU to have a secret negotiating position, they have to make their position public. So we all know there is no better deal coming.
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Seriously shut the fuck up, you just don't have an effing clue.
 
Havana Moon said:
Seriously shut the fuck up, you just don't have an effing clue.
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I think the rest of the world is just tired of Johnson's BS. He can take the deal offered him, or he can crash out of the EU with no deal, but there is no better deal coming. The magical deal where the UK gets everything, and gives up nothing, is not an option.
 
Walt said:
I think the rest of the world is just tired of Johnson's BS. He can take the deal offered him, or he can crash out of the EU with no deal, but there is no better deal coming. The magical deal where the UK gets everything, and gives up nothing, is not an option.
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If such a deal exists in the mind of Bozzie then it also exists in maggot's............albeit more cramped and subject to claustrophobia .


Haw, haw.................................haw.
 
Johnson isn't stupid - he is just a desperate con-man in a desperate situation who is 'winning' by cleverly using people's irritation with the long stalemate on Brexit. He is dodging all debate, naturally, and making populist gestures like standing up to Trump. He is hoping that, somehow, somewhere, something will turn up, while his gangster Cummings plots some sort of dictatorship. Well. well - perhaps we will strike a deal with Nyasaland or Thailand! I think he has great hopes of this Chinese illness to change the situation entirely! :) :(
 
Penderyn said:
As you know, kid, we are still living under the agreed terms, as we have been all the time your mobs have been shouting down any opposition with this crap of yours.
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For years - despite being shouted down by my mobs - the pro-EU Establishment bravely did everything in their power (and some things not strictly in their power] to stop Brexit.

Now Brexit has finally happened, there could be a "sudden end of trade"! The EU Commission may order all member states to ignore their WTO commitments and boycott Britain. Then there would be shortages of food and medicine, because the EU is one of the few sources of these things and nobody in Britain foresaw it. It's scary!
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
For years - despite being shouted down by my mobs - the pro-EU Establishment bravely did everything in their power (and some things not strictly in their power] to stop Brexit.

Now Brexit has finally happened, there could be a "sudden end of trade"! The EU Commission may order all member states to ignore their WTO commitments and boycott Britain. Then there would be shortages of food and medicine, because the EU is one of the few sources of these things and nobody in Britain foresaw it. It's scary!
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You live in a dream world, I'm afraid. Obviously the EU is not going to give the UK the benefits of membership with none of the costs, Why should they - Father Christmas resigned from the Commission long since.
 
Penderyn said:
Johnson isn't stupid - he is just a desperate con-man in a desperate situation who is 'winning' by cleverly using people's irritation with the long stalemate on Brexit. He is dodging all debate, naturally, and making populist gestures like standing up to Trump. He is hoping that, somehow, somewhere, something will turn up, while his gangster Cummings plots some sort of dictatorship. Well. well - perhaps we will strike a deal with Nyasaland or Thailand! I think he has great hopes of this Chinese illness to change the situation entirely! :) :(
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Yeh maybe he'll even conclude a trade deal with Wales, I'm sure that you can trade some nutty slack for some Big Macs!
 
Penderyn said:
You live in a dream world
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Says the Corbynist stalwart. :laugh:


Obviously the EU is not going to give the UK the benefits of membership with none of the costs
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Did I say they would? It's about what is best for both sides. It wouldn't be good, to say the least, for the EU to risk cutting trade with Britain when they run a £70 billion trade surplus. The only possible reason for vindictiveness would be to "encourage the others" not to think of leaving.

Maybe ideology will overcome common sense and they will try something like that. Probably not if British negotiators hold their nerve, but I don't know.
 
The EU will do just enough to prevent the UK becoming a basket case. Spain says there will be a price to pay. So do EU fishermen. That's just for starters.
 
Walt said:
I think the rest of the world is just tired of Johnson's BS. He can take the deal offered him, or he can crash out of the EU with no deal, but there is no better deal coming. The magical deal where the UK gets everything, and gives up nothing, is not an option.
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Brussels and Berlin might be tired of Boris. I think everyone else looks at him as not being a terrible inconvenience.
 
Bull Durham said:
Brussels and Berlin might be tired of Boris. I think everyone else looks at him as not being a terrible inconvenience.
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Paris thinks he is a clown who is best ignored. He is hated throughout the Eastern European capitals of the EU. He is reviled in Dublin for breaking the peace treaty. Is there any capital in the EU where he is liked? They do not even like him in London!!!
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Says the Corbynist stalwart. :laugh:




Did I say they would? It's about what is best for both sides. It wouldn't be good, to say the least, for the EU to risk cutting trade with Britain when they run a £70 billion trade surplus. The only possible reason for vindictiveness would be to "encourage the others" not to think of leaving.

Maybe ideology will overcome common sense and they will try something like that. Probably not if British negotiators hold their nerve, but I don't know.
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Actually it's nearer £90 billion.
 
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