All the Indian Appropriations Act of 1851 does is provide funds as was stipulated in the treaties with various tribes. It says nothing about Indians being subject to US laws. As usual, you make claims that are not supported by any facts.
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We are just saying that you made an incoherent bullshit claim that the SCOTUS ruled anything even remotely like that.
You ignored the wording of the 14th and attempted to end democracy so that your party could seize power in perpetuity. Congress TRIED to charge Trump with insurrection - but it was a partisan witch hunt and failed.
Read that again Comrade;
{although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more "born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," within the meaning of the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment, than the children of subjects of any foreign government}
Congratulations on defining why SCOTUS will toss out Birthright Citizenship for illegal aliens.
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Ignoring the treaties again?
Only a complete moron would think that the Appropriations Act of 1951 was a treaty.
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As much power as any elected official.
You just do not understand the ruling. You uneducated fucking "liberal". Kill yourself.
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I never said it was, moron.
So, no then. lol. (sorta kidding, but not really)
LOL. So if I am quoting the ruling and highlighting parts that means I don't understand it?
Perhaps you could explain it to me. Point out the part I am getting wrong.
Or are you another RW idiot that thinks you understand things because you haven't read it?
Perhaps you need to read it again and not cut off the rest of the sentence to try to change the meaning. Doing that in court will get you sanctioned if you are a lawyer.
Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States,members of and owing immediate allegiance to one of the Indian tribes (an alien though dependent power), although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more "born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," within the meaning of the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment, than the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government, or the children born within the United States of ambassadors or other public ministers of foreign nations.
The domain of the foreign government would not be located in the United States. It says children of foreigners born in the foreign country they are citizens of are not US citizens. There is nothing new or novel about that. The ruling clearly doesn't make children of foreign subjects within the domain of the US government exempt from US jurisdiction.
Illegals are under the domain of their home government.
You've driven a stake through heart of your own claim.
Oh. You are just running around in circles because you cut off your head?
I guess you don't know what the word domain means. You seem intent on proving you are stupid.
A sovereign's domain is the lands that he owns. A government's domain is the lands that they control or own.
Can you find me any definition of domain that would mean persons?
If we accept your version of the word then eminent domain can be used by the government to take a person.
I guess your parsing, distorting, and squirming have failed.
You've convinced me - SCOTUS will absolutely rule against Birthright Citizenship for illegal aliens.
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Sweet Jane
Again you’re missing my point that this is an apples to oranges comparison. That is you’re comparing someone who didn’t know better (Archie) to someone who does. That is why this is an anachronism. Your applying 2024 values to 1970 values when a lot has changed in our cultural values since then.
I will still support Archie because he had the moral courage to change. That’s no small thing.
What is the meaning of domain in eminent domain?
What is the meaning of domain in King's domain?
What is the meaning of domain in government domain?
Here is the legal definition of the word domain in the 1800's
DOMAIN. It signifies sometimes, dominion, territory governed - sometimes, possession, estate - and sometimes, land about the mansion house of a lord. By domain is also understood the right to dispose at our pleasure of what belongs to us.
2. A distinction, has been made between property and domain. The former is said to be that quality which is conceived to be in the thing itself, considered as belonging to such or such person, exclusively of all others. By the latter is understood that right which the owner has of disposing of the thing. Hence domain and property are said to be correlative terms; the one is the active right to dispose, the other a passive quality which follows the thing, and places it at the disposition of the owner. 3 Toull. n. 8 3. But this distinction is too subtle for practical use. Puff. Droit de la Nature et des Gens, loi 4, c. 4, Sec. 2. Vide 1 B1. Com. 105, 106; 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 456; Clef des Lois Rom. h.t.; Domat, h.t.; 1 Hill. Ab. 24; 2 Hill. Ab. 237; and Demesne as Of fee; Property; Things.
A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.
Domain of a foreign government is the territory that that foreign government governs or owns. There is no other meaning that would imply people outside of their territory.
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Sweet Jane
You squawk like a Parrot too. You’re argument is another one of your inane strawman arguments. I didn’t say Smoot-Hawley caused the Great Depression you nincompoop. Smoot-Hawley was enacted after the Great Depression started and I stated it made the situation worse, which it did.
Here is the definition of domain from Black's law dictionary.
DOMAIN Definition & Meaning - Black's Law Dictionary
Find the legal definition of DOMAIN from Black's Law Dictionary, 2nd Edition. The complete and absolute ownership of land; a paramount and individualright of property in land. People v. Shearer, 30 Cal. 658. Also the real estate so...
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The complete and absolute ownership of land; a paramount and individualright of property in land. People v. Shearer, 30 Cal. 658. Also the real estate so owned. The inherent sovereign power claimed by the legislature of a state, ofcontrolling private property for public uses, Is termed the “right of eminent domain.”2 Kent, Comm. 339. See EMINENT DOMAIN.A distinction has been made between “property” and “domain.” The former is said tobe that quality which is conceived to be in the thing itself, considered as belonging tosuch or such person, exclusively of all others. By the latter is understood that rightwhich the owner has of disposing of the thing, llence “domain” and “property” are saidto be correlative terms, ‘lite one is the active right to dispose of; the other a passivequality which follows the thing aud places it at the disposition of the owner. 3 Toullier, no. S3.