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If this is true, (second story below)and unfortuntely i believe that it is, and it's why the streets of Burma have been so quiet, the international progressive community is going to have to do something.

I know it's a very complicated situation because of Burma's natural resources, and that everyone is lined up for a piece. This includes China, India, and America, for instance, Chevron, (and also France's Total).

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092607S.shtml

The Unocal Corporation figured earlier in internationally backed Burmese campaigns against forced labor, land appropriation and similar other gross human-rights violations in the gas and oil projects initiated by the junta behind the people's backs. The affected villagers came together in 1996 and sued Unocal and France's Total for complicity in the abuses. The villagers charged that the companies knew about and benefited from the Burmese army's use of torture, rape and unlawful land seizures to uproot people from areas slated for "development." The lawsuits were settled after the companies agreed to make due compensation only eight years later, in 2004.

This is, in the end, all about money, and only money can change it. that means huge, international, grassroots boycotts.

Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle
By MARCUS OSCARSSON - More by this author »

Last updated at 15:04pm on 1st October 2007

Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.

The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: "Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand."

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

Meanwhile, the United Nations special envoy was in Burma's new capital today seeking meetings with the ruling military junta.

Ibrahim Gambari met detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in Rangoon yesterday. But he has yet to meet the country's senior generals as he attempts to halt violence against monks and pro-democracy activists.

It is anticipated the meeting will happen tomorrow.

Heavily-armed troops and police flooded the streets of Rangoon during Mr Ibrahim's visit to prevent new protests.

Mr Gambari met some of the country's military leaders in Naypyidaw yesterday and has returned there for further talks. But he did not meet senior general Than Shwe or his deputy Maung Aye - and they have issued no comment.

Reports from exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply "disappeared" as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.

Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.

There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.

Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484903
 
Event: Rally to show solidarity with the Myanmar protesters
Date: Monday, October 1, 2007
Time: Noon--1:00 p.m.
Location: Permanent Mission of the Union of Myanmar (Burma) to the United Nations
10 East 77th St. (near 5th Ave., east side of Central Park)
New York, NY 10021
Directions: Closest subway, No. 6 Train to 77th St.
 
If I lived anywhere near there, I would go.

This is like Darfur. I feel physical discomfort thinking of these people.
 
If I lived anywhere near there, I would go.

This is like Darfur. I feel physical discomfort thinking of these people.

I emailed it to my whole list, because I know people who are within blocks of there, and can get over. I'm not on Amnesty intl's list, and didn't get this. I called the woman, and it's only today. It needs to be sustained.
 
I emailed it to my whole list, because I know people who are within blocks of there, and can get over. I'm not on Amnesty intl's list, and didn't get this. I called the woman, and it's only today. It needs to be sustained.
Yes, thank you.
 
If this is true, (second story below)and unfortuntely i believe that it is, and it's why the streets of Burma have been so quiet, the international progressive community is going to have to do something.

I know it's a very complicated situation because of Burma's natural resources, and that everyone is lined up for a piece. This includes China, India, and America, for instance, Chevron, (and also France's Total).

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092607S.shtml

The Unocal Corporation figured earlier in internationally backed Burmese campaigns against forced labor, land appropriation and similar other gross human-rights violations in the gas and oil projects initiated by the junta behind the people's backs. The affected villagers came together in 1996 and sued Unocal and France's Total for complicity in the abuses. The villagers charged that the companies knew about and benefited from the Burmese army's use of torture, rape and unlawful land seizures to uproot people from areas slated for "development." The lawsuits were settled after the companies agreed to make due compensation only eight years later, in 2004.

This is, in the end, all about money, and only money can change it. that means huge, international, grassroots boycotts.

Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle
By MARCUS OSCARSSON - More by this author »

Last updated at 15:04pm on 1st October 2007

Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.

The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: "Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand."

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

Meanwhile, the United Nations special envoy was in Burma's new capital today seeking meetings with the ruling military junta.

Ibrahim Gambari met detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in Rangoon yesterday. But he has yet to meet the country's senior generals as he attempts to halt violence against monks and pro-democracy activists.

It is anticipated the meeting will happen tomorrow.

Heavily-armed troops and police flooded the streets of Rangoon during Mr Ibrahim's visit to prevent new protests.

Mr Gambari met some of the country's military leaders in Naypyidaw yesterday and has returned there for further talks. But he did not meet senior general Than Shwe or his deputy Maung Aye - and they have issued no comment.

Reports from exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply "disappeared" as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.

Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.

There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.

Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484903

More millionares than ever before. :clink:
 
Who is going to get the "Burma Shave" in support of the Burmese Monks ?
I saw some on the nooz last night getting it.
 
Food for thought!

addressed to the anti-war protestors...would this be a just war if US troops invaded Thailand and put a stop to this..akin to VN mind ya...not a trick question!
 
Who is going to get the "Burma Shave" in support of the Burmese Monks ?
I saw some on the nooz last night getting it.

I can't do that, sorry. If I did that, then I wouldn't conform to men's idea of a woman they would want to have sex with, and then I would have to kill myself because my life would be rendered meaningless. When drunken men in bars don't want to take you home, and construction workers don't make obscene remarks at you, you might as well die. You're no good to anybody.

And there is nothing more important for a woman, then to be desirable to construction workers and drunks. Not even saving lives. Nothing.
 
Really..................!

No because Thailand is helping the protestors, dumbass.



Okee Dokee Mr.Digi Talas...Thailand is also a capital of child porn and sex slave trade...along with Venezuela..the government along with the whole political process is in on the game...ya think they really support Monks?..Ya really need to get out in the world more...DD!:rolleyes:
 
Okee Dokee Mr.Digi Talas...Thailand is also a capital of child porn and sex slave trade...along with Venezuela..the government along with the whole political process is in on the game...ya think they really support Monks?..Ya really need to get out in the world more...DD!:rolleyes:

Where do you think all the refugees flock too? Give you a clue, it starts with a T...
 
Whatever...........

Where do you think all the refugees flock too? Give you a clue, it starts with a T...


next door neighbors make the best of friends....:rolleyes: in your world anyways...go out and do the world instead of 'Lunch' for a change...get back to me when you come back!:pke:
 
next door neighbors make the best of friends....:rolleyes: in your world anyways...go out and do the world instead of 'Lunch' for a change...get back to me when you come back!:pke:

They do when your own government is killing your people, friendly next door neighbors willing to help you have safe refuge is kinda nice... Just shut the hell up before you piss me off...
 
Damo, I just want to point out to you that, there are reports that some troops refused to fire.

But nowhere near enough of them.
 
AllI can respond too with this.............

They do when your own government is killing your people, friendly next door neighbors willing to help you have safe refuge is kinda nice... Just shut the hell up before you piss me off...

is as Confucious said...'Better to be pissed off than pissed on' get a grip already...things are not as they always seem! Enjoy the moment of false security for all...!
 
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